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But if the gas tax is repealed and a per mile tax replaces it it would have to be massive to generate trillions of dollars in taxes. I would guess at a minimum taxes would have to go up 20 times of what gas taxes collected. Gas would be at least equal to at least $10 per gallon.
why are you saying that it would need to generate trillions of dollars in taxes?
for some reason, it appears you are saying the gas tax only needs to generate about $43 billion but if switched to a mileage tax it needs to generate trillions.
There’s nothing unfair about a use tax. If somebody needs it for work, let them deduct it on their taxes. Then drop everybody’s portion of the income tax that goes to roads. You shouldn’t have to pay taxes on behalf of the guy who drives a 4000lb EV or hybrid to work 100 miles a day, or the guy who Uber Eats every meal and buys one Chinese built light bulb at a time from Amazon. It encourages local manufacturing and supply chains, and people living closer to work.
The current highway tax is unsustainable if the government wants everybody to drive fuel efficient vehicles and maintain the roads with gas taxes. Which one do they want?
Roughly 50% of my property tax is public education... I'm all for Use Tax... Many I know have no children and others home school or private schools.
why are you saying that it would need to generate trillions of dollars in taxes?
for some reason, it appears you are saying the gas tax only needs to generate about $43 billion but if switched to a mileage tax it needs to generate trillions.
The OP said this:
A vehicle mileage tax could be on the table in talks about how to finance the White House’s expected multi-trillion-dollar infrastructure proposal, according to Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg.
I am saying the gas tax now generates $43 billion a year. If we are just replacing one tax with a new one with about the same revenue it won't create any new money for this multi billion dollar infrastructure plan. So taxes would have to go up and the effective cost per gallon would go way up. I just calculated an extreme example of raising taxes on driving.
A vehicle mileage tax could be on the table in talks about how to finance the White House’s expected multi-trillion-dollar infrastructure proposal, according to Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg.
I am saying the gas tax now generates $43 billion a year. If we are just replacing one tax with a new one with about the same revenue it won't create any new money for this multi billion dollar infrastructure plan. So taxes would have to go up and the effective cost per gallon would go way up. I just calculated an extreme example of raising taxes on driving.
gotcha. no matter what you do, it would have to go up drastically for that kind of money. of course, its completely unnecessary but the words "fix our aging infrastructure roads, bridges, waterways, etc." seems to get people excited.
gotcha. no matter what you do, it would have to go up drastically for that kind of money. of course, its completely unnecessary but the words "fix our aging infrastructure roads, bridges, waterways, etc." seems to get people excited.
Its going to have to come from somewhere. Meaning taxes will have to go up to pay for it. And if they make driving more expensive then people will drive less and if its a per mile tax that tax revenue will be less than expected. If commercial vehicles will have to pay more in fuel and fuel related taxes then the cost of everything will go up.
Its going to have to come from somewhere. Meaning taxes will have to go up to pay for it. And if they make driving more expensive then people will drive less and if its a per mile tax that tax revenue will be less than expected. If commercial vehicles will have to pay more in fuel and fuel related taxes then the cost of everything will go up.
it depends on what "it" is. we dont need to spend trillions of dollars fixing all this stuff. it just sounds good for political purposes, it wont happen and doesnt need to happen.
Its going to have to come from somewhere. Meaning taxes will have to go up to pay for it. And if they make driving more expensive then people will drive less and if its a per mile tax that tax revenue will be less than expected. If commercial vehicles will have to pay more in fuel and fuel related taxes then the cost of everything will go up.
It needs to happen. We've put off spending money on infrastructure far too long. So we HAVE to pay for it, regardless of political bent, or we're going to have to resign ourselves to driving on roads not fit for 3rd world countries and bridges that are ready to fall down at a moment's notice.
Notice the cars on this? People were USING this bridge when it went down.
And this one, which closed down I-5 for a long time:
Or this on on I-40:
And lets not even talk about other infrastructure like rail...
it depends on what "it" is. we dont need to spend trillions of dollars fixing all this stuff.
Yes, we do. We've been putting it off far too long and things have gotten dangerous out there. Doing it piecemeal and scrimping on it got us into a mess. We can't do it that way anymore.
That's the most fair way to tax those who pollute the most traveling long distances.
If freeways won't be "free", people may start using electric trains.
Not really, because the damage incurred by vehicles to roadways has more to do with the vehicle's weight than the miles traveled. Someone paying the same amount per mile in a Tahoe as someone in a Mitsubishi Mirage amounts to a tax break for the Tahoe. Fuel taxes solve some of that as there is often a correlation between vehicle weight and fuel consumption. Another way to do this would be to charge registration fees at least partly based on curb weight.
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