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Old 05-06-2023, 03:21 PM
 
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Seems like most electrical power products start out the same way. Televisions are a good example. When they were first introduced, they were expensive, bulky, and gave a lot of trouble. Now you can get a base model dirt cheap, lightweight, and will last forever. I would guess that electric vehicles will follow the same path.
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Old 05-08-2023, 07:37 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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I’m confused. You stayed at motels during your trip too. Are you saying that charger-equipped hotels/motels would cost more? Do you have some information showing this?
We never stayed at a motel on that trip, what I am saying is that to get access to a charger today one might have to stay at a motel where they could charge while sleeping. There are no chargers at camgrounds yet, or along the side of the road or other places where we slept in the car.
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Old 05-08-2023, 07:58 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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We never stayed at a motel on that trip, what I am saying is that to get access to a charger today one might have to stay at a motel where they could charge while sleeping. There are no chargers at camgrounds yet, or along the side of the road or other places where we slept in the car.
Yet there are in other places, so this still makes no sense. On my Florida trips, I nap at the supercharger locations and drive straight though. On a trip where I am stopping anyway - such as my upcoming drive to Oklahoma - I'll either find a hotel with chargers or stop at a supercharger before or after.

It's really no different at all except the "fuel" stops are a little longer and more frequent. After a year and a half of driving one, I can't understand why people can't grasp this. What aspect of driving an electric car made you think it's imperative to stop at a hotel during a road trip? Honest question. I've actually found the opposite to be true: since I can nap at the longer stops, I don't stop overnight. If anything, you're wasting time by stopping to sleep when you don't otherwise need to. I used to do the same. If my daughter wasn't coming with me, I'd drive straight to Oklahoma the same as I do with Florida.
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Old 05-08-2023, 10:55 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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The "longer and more frequent" makes a big difference on a long road trip, and when those trips are in remote areas, the inconvenience is greatly increased. Just this morning I saw the article about the guy traveling by EV to Burney Falls (below). As most people around here still have a gas SUV or Pickup along with their EV, it's just a matter of selecting the most appropriate vehicle for the trip.

Saturday we drove from here in the Seattle area to Portland, Oregon, and back the same day on one tank of gas in my wife's Outback. With travel in between it was about 420 miles. The longest we were stopped was for lunch, 40 minutes, but there were no chargers near that restaurant.


https://www.businessinsider.com/tesl...g-curve-2023-5

https://www.axios.com/2023/02/21/ele...d-trip-lessons
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Old 05-08-2023, 11:06 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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But the point is an EV owner would just go to lunch near a charger, effectively making your trip in the same amount of time. At least in a Tesla that is. Somehow this is regularly portrayed as a huge inconvenience. I don't get it. My Florida trips have averaged only 2 hours longer than in the gas car.
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Old 05-08-2023, 02:17 PM
 
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but at least with most ICE or PHEV you'll have over 500 miles per tank.
Well I don't know about that. The average is 300 miles per tank.
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Old 05-08-2023, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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We never stayed at a motel on that trip, what I am saying is that to get access to a charger today one might have to stay at a motel where they could charge while sleeping. There are no chargers at camgrounds yet, or along the side of the road or other places where we slept in the car.
While not the point of EA's video, I would like to see an itinerary for Rob Barossa's road trip along with how the route was determined. 2800 miles over 7 days = 400 miles per day, yet he mentions a 12-hour travel day at one point. Travel time and pace are off the mark. Is it due to EV range limitations, and charging network, or was this just more of a leisurely pace? Or a combination of all the above? I am curious to know.
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Old 05-08-2023, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Florida
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My 11 year old convertible only has 40,000 miles on it, I plan to keep it indefinitely.

I am high mileage at age 89.
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Old 05-09-2023, 07:04 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Well I don't know about that. The average is 300 miles per tank.
My F150 range is about 760 miles, my wife's Outback 512, even my 1974 Nova 360 miles.
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Old 05-09-2023, 07:10 AM
 
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My F150 range is about 760 miles, my wife's Outback 512, even my 1974 Nova 360 miles.
Yes, there are those above average of course. Especially larger vehicles with big tanks. Just saying that it's not "most".
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