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Again, I think that is where a travel itinerary would be useful, but Barossa stated at 0:52 that "he was sitting here about 20 minutes or so, grabbing a quick burger. As soon as it's up to about 80%". Then at 1:19, he said, "The drive today is probably about a 12-hour drive - we will have to charge 5-6 times along the way".
Based on his statements, he appears that he spent about 100 minutes each day charging not including overnights. That's over 11 hours of charging for the week for a trip where he only paced 400 miles per day.
That makes sense. I'd like to explicitly state that since this is a multi-day trip and they are purposefully doing all charging via Electrify America charging stations since that's the company making this video and where he works. Those are fast chargers and not chargers you plug into overnight while you sleep and waking up every day with a full charge can make a pretty crucial difference.
For the vehicle he used, the Hyundai Ioniq 5, the lower range option is about 200 highway miles and the higher range is around 300 miles. If he were to have done overnight charging each night along the way with a level 2 charger which is the most common home charger, public free charger, and hotel chargers we see, he could started every day with a topped off vehicle, then he would have had to stop only once or twice per day if he were going about 400 miles each day and could have timed those with meal or stretch breaks. However, that wasn't the point for him since he was supposed to use only Electrify America DC fast chargers.
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And I'm sure he stuck to the major highways, and didn't travel the back roads.
That's my gripe. I don't want to be told what route I'll need to take based on charger availability. If there's something I want to see in a podunk town, I want the freedom to go there without worrying about finding somewhere to charge.
And yes, I know there's always worry about finding gas stations in remote areas as well, but at least with most ICE or PHEV you'll have over 500 miles per tank.
And I'm sure he stuck to the major highways, and didn't travel the back roads.
That's my gripe. I don't want to be told what route I'll need to take based on charger availability. If there's something I want to see in a podunk town, I want the freedom to go there without worrying about finding somewhere to charge.
And yes, I know there's always worry about finding gas stations in remote areas as well, but at least with most ICE or PHEV you'll have over 500 miles per tank.
If you're in a major city, or traveling along a major interstate highway, for the most part, you're going to be pretty well covered by DC-fast charging these days. If you're in seriously rural areas though - like one finds in ND, SD, NE, KS, WY, MT, and/or traveling a secondary highway in most any rural area, you may be SOL, at least for DC fast-charging. Charging networks of course, continue to expand though.
PlugShare's online map is a good place to get an idea of what coverage looks like - set the filter to min 50kW charging - that's where DC fast-charging starts, and zoom in to your state of interest, as there are some issues with their icon rendering layout algorithm.
And I'm sure he stuck to the major highways, and didn't travel the back roads.
That's my gripe. I don't want to be told what route I'll need to take based on charger availability. If there's something I want to see in a podunk town, I want the freedom to go there without worrying about finding somewhere to charge.
And yes, I know there's always worry about finding gas stations in remote areas as well, but at least with most ICE or PHEV you'll have over 500 miles per tank.
Why would he want to travel the back roads for a trip from LA to the DC suburbs?
There's a question of how far off the roads you're willing to go, because at this point the vast majority of the contiguous US has chargers on more than just the major highways. It is going to be more inconvenient on extended trips where you don't charge overnight, but then if you are charging overnight it can end up actually being *more* convenient so there's a convenience trade-off rather than a full loss.
It's a substantial exaggeration that *most* ICE or PHEV go over 500 miles per tank. The median for MY2021 was 403 which means fully have of models are likely under the 400 mark, let alone *over* the 500 mark.
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Since becoming an EV driver I've learned a hell of a lot about how closed minded the majority of people are when confronted with things they don't understand. It's really effin sad.
There's no "bingo" Leadfoot. It was a wildly misinformed statement that raised your jollies enough to post that one-word insight. Based on previous interactions with you on this topic, I will leave it at that. Your mind is as closed as it gets, yet you waste your time constantly posting in EV threads. You need a deep reflection on why this topic triggers you so much. Maybe go for a ride with your gas cap open so you can smell those fumes you enjoy so greatly.
In fact I'm willing to bet I actually road trip more often and further than most of you who constantly harp on a technology you know nothing about. Up next are Southern Virginia, then Oklahoma. Both before July comes to a close. Then the Idaho-side of Yellowstone in September.
You people literally have no clue about EVs yet talk like experts. It's a pathetic act.
It's a substantial exaggeration that *most* ICE or PHEV go over 500 miles per tank. The median for MY2021 was 403 which means fully have of models are likely under the 400 mark, let alone *over* the 500 mark.
...and I guarantee it's usually an exaggeration how often, how far, and for how many miles without stopping these close minded people actually take road trips.
Since becoming an EV driver I've learned a hell of a lot about how closed minded the majority of people are when confronted with things they don't understand. It's really effin sad.
There's no "bingo" Leadfoot. It was a wildly misinformed statement that raised your jollies enough to post that one-word insight. Based on previous interactions with you on this topic, I will leave it at that. Your mind is as closed as it gets, yet you waste your time constantly posting in EV threads. You need a deep reflection on why this topic triggers you so much. Maybe go for a ride with your gas cap open so you can smell those fumes you enjoy so greatly.
In fact I'm willing to bet I actually road trip more often and further than most of you who constantly harp on a technology you know nothing about. Up next are Southern Virginia, then Oklahoma. Both before July comes to a close. Then the Idaho-side of Yellowstone in September.
You people literally have no clue about EVs yet talk like experts. It's a pathetic act.
Why would he want to travel the back roads for a trip from LA to the DC suburbs?
There's a question of how far off the roads you're willing to go, because at this point the vast majority of the contiguous US has chargers on more than just the major highways. It is going to be more inconvenient on extended trips where you don't charge overnight, but then if you are charging overnight it can end up actually being *more* convenient so there's a convenience trade-off rather than a full loss.
It's a substantial exaggeration that *most* ICE or PHEV go over 500 miles per tank. The median for MY2021was 403 which means fully have of models are likely under the 400 mark, let alone *over* the 500 mark.
It's a given that charging stations are not as ubiquitous as gas stations, thus possibly requiring rerouting/delays of a planned trip. Also a given that charging is not as fast as refueling with gas, even to 80%. Those are indisputable facts as of this moment. For some (self-included), that would require a vastly improved range to overcome the disadvantage of the above points. For others, EVs may offer a greater advantage.
500 miles may get tossed around a lot, but even on my V6 Frontier, I can push 460 miles with conservative driving. It would cost me 80k-100k to get half that range with current EV trucks.
It's a given that charging stations are not as ubiquitous as gas stations, thus possibly requiring rerouting/delays of a planned trip. Also a given that charging is not as fast as refueling with gas, even to 80%. Those are indisputable facts as of this moment. For some (self-included), that would require a vastly improved range to overcome the disadvantage of the above points. For others, EVs may offer a greater advantage.
500 miles may get tossed around a lot, but even on my V6 Frontier, I can push 460 miles with conservative driving. It would cost me 80k-100k to get half that range with current EV trucks.
Honest question: why are road trips more important than daily driving to your car buying decision?
I'm truly trying to understand why these discussions ALWAYS devolve into road trip discussions while the IMMENSE benefits experienced for the vast majority of EVERYONE'S driving habits are completely ignored.
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