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We would not have jet aircraft, or have put anyone on the moon, or have a civilian GPS system, had it not been for proven battlefield technology. If battlefield technology has proven to be effective, and there is a civilian use for the technology, then why should it not be put to practical use in the civilian sector? Are civilans using predator drones or is it only a government tool (military & law enfocement agencies)? Can I buy one to fly over and look at everyone and their property I want or is that an invasion of privacy?
With regard to law enforcement, we should use the most effective tools at our disposal. Remember, it is not the tool that is the problem, but how that tool is being used. As long as government upholds our constitutionally protected rights, then it should not matter what tool they choose to use.
Highlighted part is the key. Our Constitutionally protected liberties are not being upheld. The 4th, 5th & 6th Amendments have been effectively gutted by legislation (Non-expiration of Patriot Act) or are in the legislative process of being gutted, respectively, (S-1876).
History has proven that eventually the tools of war used by our own armed forces on foreign battlefields are eventually brought home and used against the citizens of the US.
Thank you for illustrating the slippery slope upon which citizens have lost every reasonable expectation of privacy on their own property. Orwellian is it not?
What privacy does one have out in public?
Go sunbathe in your back yard nude and watch how fast your neighbors report you...
Are civilans using predator drones or is it only a government tool (military & law enfocement agencies)? Can I buy one to fly over and look at everyone and their property I want or is that an invasion of privacy?
Yes, civilians are using drones.
Farmers in Japan already use small drones to automatically spray their crops with pesticides, and more recently safety inspectors used them at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant; and
Archaeologists in Russia are using small drones and their infrared cameras to construct a 3-D model of ancient burial mounds.
The FAA says there are technical issues to be addressed before they are introduced in civil airspace. Among them is how to respond if a communication link is lost with a drone — such as when it falls out of the sky, takes a nose dive into a backyard pool or crashes through someone's roof. These issues to be addressed apply to law enforcement as well as the civilian sector.
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Originally Posted by lifelongMOgal
Highlighted part is the key. Our Constitutionally protected liberties are not being upheld. The 4th, 5th & 6th Amendments have been effectively gutted by legislation (Non-expiration of Patriot Act) or are in the legislative process of being gutted, respectively, (S-1876).
Complete hogwash. There is nothing unconstitutional with regard to either the USAPATRIOT Act or S. 1876. Neither law violates any of our constitutionally protected rights. Maybe you should try actually reading the law instead of listening to the media hype.
Farmers in Japan already use small drones to automatically spray their crops with pesticides, and more recently safety inspectors used them at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant; and
Archaeologists in Russia are using small drones and their infrared cameras to construct a 3-D model of ancient burial mounds.
The FAA says there are technical issues to be addressed before they are introduced in civil airspace. Among them is how to respond if a communication link is lost with a drone — such as when it falls out of the sky, takes a nose dive into a backyard pool or crashes through someone's roof. These issues to be addressed apply to law enforcement as well as the civilian sector.
Thank you, by your own admission they are not being used by citizen civilians in the US in US airspace.
Complete hogwash. There is nothing unconstitutional with regard to either the USAPATRIOT Act or S. 1876. Neither law violates any of our constitutionally protected rights. Maybe you should try actually reading the law instead of listening to the media hype.
Sen. McCain, is that you?
I do read the legislation, thank you. Your repeated use of the term "civilian" tells me all I need to know about your elitist additude. Maybe you are a staffer for warmonger Sen. McCain or Graham?
History has proven that eventually the tools of war used by our own armed forces on foreign battlefields are eventually brought home and used against the citizens of the US.
Thank you for illustrating the slippery slope upon which citizens have lost every reasonable expectation of privacy on their own property. Orwellian is it not?
Traffic cam is an invastion of privacy? Maybe if you think you own the road.
I guess you guys are referring to the radar gun....a military invention used to squash my right to go 120mph down the freeway.
Seriously, military inventions and innovations find their way into many many applications like the heads up display in my sportscar, tons and tons of electronic innovations in phones, computers....velcro was a US govt invention...and so on and so forth.
I'm waiting for one of our local constitutional experts to explain to me how getting a search warrant and then using a drone to spot the 3 guys is wrong. Please, do not embelish and alter facts by claiming that next thing you know they will just fire a hellfire missle at the guys and abolish trials.
Complete hogwash. There is nothing unconstitutional with regard to either the USAPATRIOT Act or S. 1876. Neither law violates any of our constitutionally protected rights. Maybe you should try actually reading the law instead of listening to the media hype.
That's it....off to the FEMA concentration camp with you!
Thermal imaging of a home constitutes a Fourth Amendment "search" and may be done only with a warrant.
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