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Old 12-13-2011, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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I am sure there will be some who find nothing wrong with surveillance drones being used against Americans...



Police employ Predator drone spy planes on home front - latimes.com
You know, them cows are hard to keep track of!
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Old 12-13-2011, 04:21 PM
 
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No they don't. The Patriot Act fixed that problem. Don't you remember Bush arguing that warrants took too long?
No, warrants are still required, provide me with the part of the patriot act you refer to.
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Old 12-13-2011, 05:02 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Rein in Warrantless Searches: Congress Must Set Limits on FBI
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Old 12-13-2011, 05:07 PM
 
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What is the proof they brandished the rifles the first time?
Because a cop said so?

Good thing police never lie or make stuff up.
Why are you trying to hijack this thread?
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Old 12-13-2011, 05:13 PM
 
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This thread is the perfect example of people pushing their pet peeves...

Simple subject... A Predator drone used by Police...

And what do people stand on their soapbox about?

~ Police lying

~ Warrantless searches

~ Constitutional rights

~ No knock raids
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Old 12-13-2011, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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This thread is the perfect example of people pushing their pet peeves...

Simple subject... A Predator drone used by Police...

And what do people stand on their soapbox about?

~ Police lying

~ Warrantless searches

~ Constitutional rights

~ No knock raids
Why are you trying to control this discussion? The topic is about drones being used against citizens here, and why this poses a problem. You have to quit staring at the tree and see the forest, it's all connected.
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Old 12-13-2011, 05:25 PM
 
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Why are you trying to control this discussion? The topic is about drones being used against citizens here, and why this poses a problem. You have to quit staring at the tree and see the forest, it's all connected.
Still waiting to hear the loony logic decrying drones and not a peep about CCTV cameras everywhere you go monitored by police....

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Old 12-13-2011, 05:31 PM
 
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Why are you trying to control this discussion? The topic is about drones being used against citizens here, and why this poses a problem. You have to quit staring at the tree and see the forest, it's all connected.
Im still curious about where in the patriot act it says governments no longer have to obey the 4th amendment...
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Old 12-13-2011, 05:46 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Im still curious about where in the patriot act it says governments no longer have to obey the 4th amendment...
Look to Section 505 of the PATRIOT Act.
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Old 12-13-2011, 05:48 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Still waiting to hear the loony logic decrying drones and not a peep about CCTV cameras everywhere you go monitored by police....
CCTV aren't spying on you on your own land....

Drones have the capability of not only spying on people,but seeing through walls and into buildings.
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