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The Charlotte-Sao Paulo flight is operating on leased slots from United that will expire. US Airways applied for both Charlotte and Philly to Sao Paulo, but because the slots they currently use are leased, the Charlotte and PHL-Sao Paulo flights are both technically for new slots. The US and Brazil dont have open skies, so everything is done by application and the DOT chooses the winners.
You are correct on the question of PHL-Europe. Philly doesnt bleed as much there, but they do bleed a lot of India/Middle East (or at least they seem to). The Qatar Airways flight will help that a lot. I do expect PHL's international O&D to increase somewhat with that flight.
However, youll be waiting on Sao Paulo for a while. The DOT didnt award US that route. They gave them Charlotte-Sao Paulo instead.
I am going to assume that Qatar flight will rely heavily on connecting traffic.
I am going to assume that Qatar flight will rely heavily on connecting traffic.
Yes, especially since the aircraft being used is a 77W. That would be way too much given the local market size. They will depend on the new American to provide the feed.
A 787 would have had a better chance of just catering to the local PHL market, but the 77W is way too large.
Some other observations:
-Atlanta's domestic numbers fell off of a cliff while the international numbers held steady YOY. Atlanta's domestic O&D numbers were pushing 26 million in 2010 and in 2012 they didnt even hit 19 million. I imagine Atlanta just had a bad year and will probably see an increase next year. Losses that big typically arent constant.
-Dallas had a large percentage increase of international O&D while it was flat on domestic O&D. This is probably due to Emirates and Qantas starting service and Korean and Aeromexico increasing service to the area. This stopped much of the bleed to Houston on the India/Middle East traffic.
-Houston and Seattle had huge increases of domestic O&D and bumps on international O&D as well.
-San Diego & Orlando had an increase of international O&D while a dip in domestic.
This is a sore subject with me since the Dallas Qantas flight used to be out of SFO. I have been wanting to see the numbers on that flight in the last year after the initial buzz died down. Obviously it can't be all bad since the route is still current but having to connect in LAX for a Qantas flight or fly United's inferior non-stop SFO-SYD makes every Bay Arean cringe with dissapointment. Where is Virgin Blue? That was rumoured but nothing materialized. Qantas is the most fickle knee jerk reaction airline I've ever seen. Even their upper management makes dumb decision. Like ordering gas guzzling 747-400ER's when most other carriers were ordering 777ER/LRs. Qantas lack of an aircraft like that limits their profitability on routes that would be optimized and better suited on a 777 IMO.
I read somewhere that LAX is ranked #1 in O&D passengers in the US and is the world's busiest O&D airport. But I think the data was from 2009. I'll try to find the link to the source where I read it. Can anyone confirm or deny if that is still the case?
I read somewhere that LAX is ranked #1 in O&D passengers in the US and is the world's busiest O&D airport. But I think the data was from 2009. I'll try to find the link to the source where I read it. Can anyone confirm or deny if that is still the case?
That's just #1 in on-time performances. From that same article:
"Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) is the third busiest airport in the U.S. and sixth in the world, offering more than 565 daily flights to 81 destinations in the U.S. and over 1,000 weekly nonstop flights to 65 international destinations on over 75 carriers."
JFK can actually grow quite a bit. They have federal flight limits, but not capacity limits, and have been steadily replacing smaller capacity domestic routes with larger capacity international or transcontinental routes.
With the new terminals planned, the reliance on international traffic, and the serious discussion of an additional runway, JFK seems like it will have higher-than-average growth compared to other airports in the Northeast. It's especially so reliant on international traffic, which is growing so much faster than domestic.
I would say, among the NYC Big Three, JFK would have the fastest growth in the coming years. You're getting a new JetBlue International Terminal, Delta just completed Phase I of its Terminal 4 expansion (and Phase II is coming), AA is planning Phase II of its terminal, and BA is planning to redevelop its terminal.
JFK can actually grow quite a bit. They have federal flight limits, but not capacity limits, and have been steadily replacing smaller capacity domestic routes with larger capacity international or transcontinental routes.
With the new terminals planned, the reliance on international traffic, and the serious discussion of an additional runway, JFK seems like it will have higher-than-average growth compared to other airports in the Northeast. It's especially so reliant on international traffic, which is growing so much faster than domestic.
I would say, among the NYC Big Three, JFK would have the fastest growth in the coming years. You're getting a new JetBlue International Terminal, Delta just completed Phase I of its Terminal 4 expansion (and Phase II is coming), AA is planning Phase II of its terminal, and BA is planning to redevelop its terminal.
Understood but JFK is not as well positioned to handle any Int'l connections, It will alway be a big Int'l hub of sorts but may not be able to handle domestic connections becaus of the Int'l volumes. will be interesting to see what happens longer term
I read somewhere that LAX is ranked #1 in O&D passengers in the US and is the world's busiest O&D airport. But I think the data was from 2009. I'll try to find the link to the source where I read it. Can anyone confirm or deny if that is still the case?
Yes that is correct. By airport LAX is #1 for O&D passengers world wise. However, the stats posted are by metro area. When you include LAX, SNA, ONT, BUR, and LGB vs. all the NYC airports (JFK, LGA, EWR, and HPN), the NYC market is much busier for O&D.
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