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Old 12-29-2014, 06:01 AM
 
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I'm wondering if this incident and MH370 are terrorist related, but the terrorists are simply to claiming responsibility so they won't be hunted down. One would think too that given the peculiar nature of the "disappearance" of MH370, the some terrorist group could have made a false claim of responsibility to get some "free publicity". As far as I know none did.
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Old 12-29-2014, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Terrorists love to flaunt their work. I am focused on the "no data". If the plane had a problem with the engines it would have sent data.

Taking Malaysia off the bucket list. Seriously how does one lose two large aircraft and get another shot down in one year?!
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Old 12-29-2014, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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My take on AirAsia8501 - flying across the intertropical convergence zone they encountered a mesoscale thunderstorm with massive moisture content. At that altitude all that moisture was becoming ice and the ice overwhelmed and shutdown both engines. The report says they tried to climb over the convective activity instead of circumnavigate it. CB tops must have been over 40,000 feet well over their max altitude capability. God bless the souls of the crew and passengers.

Even if both engines shut down, at 38ft they should have been able to fly for quite sometime. Certainly long enough for a mayday
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Old 12-29-2014, 10:06 AM
 
Location: New York
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Even if both engines shut down, at 38ft they should have been able to fly for quite sometime. Certainly long enough for a mayday
The ice would have likely damaged the fan blades -which are notoriously thin on the CFM-56 preventing engine reignition. These ice crystal encounters are becoming increasingly frequent in the ITCZ.
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Old 12-29-2014, 11:59 AM
 
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It seems like it's always Southeast Asia...... So sad!

I'm 100% sure they're all dead :/
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Old 12-29-2014, 12:18 PM
 
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I honestly believe both MH370 and this "accident" are the result of terrorist action. Given we can see what happens on flightradar24 and this plane was in easily tracked and radar covered airspace, if it had been like AF447 where it went out of control, we would have seen such on FR24 (whereas AF447 was outside radar covered airspace of course), but no, it's just 32,000ft and normal cruising speed one minute then *poof*, gone the next. I reckon a bomb.

MH370 I always have and still believe hijacking, possibly with the captain in on it. No inflight fire or depressurization scenario can adequately explain the radios/transponder going off then a fairly deliberate turn right off the flight plan, and continuing to fly for hours. Some terrorist group with a political axe to grind is targeting Malaysian aircraft, and this has probably been planned for some months/years possibly. (Not including MH017, that could have been any other airline).
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Old 12-29-2014, 12:19 PM
 
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Is there a Malaysian triangle not yet discovered?
those of us in Asia have long been aware that it is the Next Big Terrorist Hotspot.

Malaysia has extreme Islamists. A lot of them.
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Old 12-29-2014, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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those of us in Asia have long been aware that it is the Next Big Terrorist Hotspot.

Malaysia has extreme Islamists. A lot of them.
Scary.
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Old 12-29-2014, 12:48 PM
 
Location: The Dirty South.
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Maybe these Asian pilots are doing suicide flights and bringing the passengers with them. Two flights missing within a year.
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Old 12-29-2014, 01:04 PM
 
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Maybe these Asian pilots are doing suicide flights and bringing the passengers with them. Two flights missing within a year.
It has happened.... Muslim pilots cannot be trusted
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