Here's What's Wrong With Baltimore (how much, homes, neighborhood)

[Tiger Beer]

Originally Posted by pgtitans

Who walks in the middle of a city that they don't know, drunk, with expensive jewelry, by themselves, 2 am at night? Even the safest areas aren't that safe to do that.

Actually, drinking at 2am socializing is pretty common throughout the entire world. I've done it myself in Brazil, throughout Asia, and much of Europe. I've also drank 2am in city streets regularly in NYC, SF, etc. I've probably done exactly that at least 1000 times+ in my life, but never in Baltimore though.

I never wear expensive jewelry though...did he in the video? I didn't pick up on that.

Based on the video, it looks like many black folks drink beer in Baltimore's nightlife area at 2am.

To me, it looked like the white guy wasn't part of that group, but there were a lot of people out and about, and he was walking from one place to the next (either barhopping, or going home for the night). It looked like some other people were drinking and having fun (common in nightlife situations, all the time). He 'allows' the fun of the situation only momentarily...i.e. half naked girl tries to dance with you... who wouldn't pause for a second or two. But than suddenly the one guy starts trying to pick his pockets, than he clocked him out, and they robbed him.

I don't see any 'he shouldn't have been there'. It's St. Patricks Day. It's a nightlife area where people socialize. It looked like he was 'moving on', but got momentarily caught up in that, and things went downhill incredibly fast. He did nothing to warrant it.

It shoulds like what you're saying is....if you're out at 2am...you should expect to be robbed and beaten? That's not right.

[KLynch10]

There is about 10,000 people out each weekend night in both federal hill and canton who never have safety issues.

[LoveToRow]

Originally Posted by KLynch10

There is about 10,000 people out each weekend night in both federal hill and canton who never have safety issues.

That you hear about.

[justtitans]

Originally Posted by Tiger Beer

Actually, drinking at 2am socializing is pretty common throughout the entire world. I've done it myself in Brazil, throughout Asia, and much of Europe. I've also drank 2am in city streets regularly in NYC, SF, etc. I've probably done exactly that at least 1000 times+ in my life, but never in Baltimore though.

I never wear expensive jewelry though...did he in the video? I didn't pick up on that.

Based on the video, it looks like many black folks drink beer in Baltimore's nightlife area at 2am.

He had a $1300 watch on which is what started the issue. The guy walked up to him, took his watch, he went after it and then the guy that stole the watched punched him and knocked him down.

Originally Posted by Tiger Beer

To me, it looked like the white guy wasn't part of that group, but there were a lot of people out and about, and he was walking from one place to the next (either barhopping, or going home for the night). It looked like some other people were drinking and having fun (common in nightlife situations, all the time). He 'allows' the fun of the situation only momentarily...i.e. half naked girl tries to dance with you... who wouldn't pause for a second or two. But than suddenly the one guy starts trying to pick his pockets, than he clocked him out, and they robbed him.

People who have street smarts and are aware of their surroundings. I'm not saying that you can sniff these situations out everytime, but if you have lived around a city like this long enough, you realize that there are shady people and that you can be easily set up. This is not an uncommon thing, gang members and criminals in general use innocent distractions to set themselves up. When you are in a city like this by yourself, you have to be a little bit more aware of your surroundings. He shouldn't have stopped for anyone and just walked straight back to his hotel, but when you are drunk as he was, you're not going to think clearly.

Originally Posted by Tiger Beer

I don't see any 'he shouldn't have been there'. It's St. Patricks Day. It's a nightlife area where people socialize. It looked like he was 'moving on', but got momentarily caught up in that, and things went downhill incredibly fast. He did nothing to warrant it.

Okay but if you are going to be there, take precaution. That's the problem here. This could have been possibly prevented. I'm not blaming him for their actions, but he made himself a target unfortunately because he was vulnerable. There is a random drunk white guy walking around Baltimore, doesn't look like he knows where he is going and he has expensive jewelry. That just screams attention to criminals. Under the right circumstances, he would have been fine, but when you go to a place like that, in the manner he did, you are playing with your life.

Originally Posted by Tiger Beer

It shoulds like what you're saying is....if you're out at 2am...you should expect to be robbed and beaten? That's not right.

No you shouldn't but unfortunately this is the society we live in. These people who set him up are nothing but hoodlums. To me though, if I'm going to put myself in that position, I'm going to do what I can not to draw attention to myself. I akin this to a woman wearing revealing clothes but doesn't like when men stare. If he had taken precaution perhaps this would not have happened.

I think people on here are trying to separate their idea of what the world should be with what it really is. Baltimore is not safe even though it's getting better. You cannot go out drunk by yourself, with expensive jewelry on at 2 AM and just expect to be safe. That's not how the world works. People want to believe that you should be able to do that, but clearly this shows you that is not reality.

[HandsUpThumbsDown]

Originally Posted by pgtitans

I think people on here are trying to separate their idea of what the world should be with what it really is. Baltimore is not safe even though it's getting better. You cannot go out drunk by yourself, with expensive jewelry on at 2 AM and just expect to be safe. That's not how the world works. People want to believe that you should be able to do that, but clearly this shows you that is not reality.

^

This.

PGTitans isn't being an apologist.

[Tiger Beer]

Originally Posted by pgtitans

He had a $1300 watch on which is what started the issue. The guy walked up to him, took his watch, he went after it and then the guy that stole the watched punched him and knocked him down.

When I watched it originally, it looked like he was going for the pocket.

If that watch was a $1300 one, that is interesting. You really gotta have almost zero street smarts to think you can walk around with that.

[KLynch10]

Originally Posted by Trace21230

That you hear about.

That's not true. I've been out 100s of times, and so have 100s of my friends, none have ever had an issue. I also get all the reports from the police.

There is only two conclusions from this story. The suspects are absolute scumbags who need to pay, and the guy should have been less intoxicated, which would have prevented this.

[justtitans]

Originally Posted by Tiger Beer

When I watched it originally, it looked like he was going for the pocket.

If that watch was a $1300 one, that is interesting. You really gotta have almost zero street smarts to think you can walk around with that.

Check this out, they explain it more here and talk about the watch.

Onlookers jeer as man is beaten, stripped and robbed in Baltimore - CNN.com

[LoveToRow]

Originally Posted by pgtitans

Check this out, they explain it more here and talk about the watch.

Onlookers jeer as man is beaten, stripped and robbed in Baltimore - CNN.com

So we have video footage of the perps and national news coverage, yet no arrests.

WTG Baltimore.

[Frank.O´Hara]

For me as a white person, this just hurts. But it won´t change my believes about progressive black people. However, I need to say something about it. My comment might be offensive for some people. However, believe that I´m talking only about these unprogressive hood rats and I´m in no way addressing hard working black citizen.

Firstly I´d never thought this would happen in Downtown... I mean I thought Downtowns are safe all across the nation. I don´t live in Baltimore, this has to be said. Well, we all know at 2 AM bad thing happens. Now it seems that even in Downtown.

But what I really want to express, what really hurts me, is the fact that the guy was just lying on the ground and letting them to do their "job". Couldn´t he at least try to hit them? I know he was alone, I know this was not a fair-play. But come on! Would you just lie on the ground while being attacked and do nothing? I just don´t understand it. And to my knowledge, most of the white victims never take any action.

This reminds me of the "Polar bear hunting" incident in Richmond (white guy beaten by a group of blacks, also recorded on camera and also the victim surrended) and Chicago/Philadelphia mob attacks last summer. There is a video of a group of 50 black teenagers smashing a car´s window in Center City Philadelphia, which is one of the most affluent neighbourhoods. They also attacked innocent bystanders.
And do you remember the Wisconsin incident, where a group of 500 black kids brutaly attacked visitors of Wisconsin Fair? They just took over the parking lot and attacked any white person they saw. None of the victims took any action. And the statement of the sherrif? "WE HAVE NO PROOF OF A RACIAL MOTIVATION".

I know it´s easy to sit behind computer and telling what to do. This nonsense is just tortuting my mind. There might be a funny explanation for why the victims never defend, though. You know, what if the black kids got harmed? What if it was inappropriate defense? I mean, what if people are just scared to use their gun? That idiot Sharpton would immidiately run to Atlanta CNN headquarters and a SCANDAL would be born, ghettos would riot just like London last year or LA in 1992 and as a result the innocent victim would end up in jail.

Through all this negativity that I´ve just expressed, I still believe things like these will become less common in the future. At least I hope so, since the New Age is coming. At times like today, the most important thing to do is to think positively.