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Old 12-07-2016, 05:57 PM
 
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Potentially a good move for the Cubs. They get an ace closer, on a cheap deal. But, he's got some serious health concerns.
He came back in September and pitched 9.6 innings, striking out 15 while walking just one, gave up three runs and saved six games.

Seemed healthy.

Do you know something?
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Old 12-07-2016, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Trumbull/Danbury
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Rockies sign Ian Desmond for 5 years and $70 million (and the #11 pick) to play 1B

Ian Desmond agrees to five-year deal with Rockies – The Denver Post

As someone who cheers for the Dodgers I can't say that this move worries me too much about the Rockies in 2017 or the future.

I like Desmond as a player, but this move makes no sense. He's not a good enough hitter to be that valuable at 1B so the Rockies locking themselves into a, maybe, average 1Bman for 5 years makes them less likely to beat us head-to-head or to beat us for the division (or wild card spot).

There's some talk they're just saying he'll play 1B while they work on a deal for another OFer. That'd make more sense. Especially if the OFer they trade is CarGo.

To me, this seems like Charlie Blackmon is all but gone. Desi, Arenado, CarGo, Story & LeMaheiu is a pretty good lineup to build a WC contender around. Blackmon would've netted them Giolito or Lopez and pair either of them up with Jon Gray & Tyler Chatwood and that's an underrated ball club.
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Old 12-07-2016, 07:52 PM
 
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Surprised no one has mentioned White Sox-Nats deal, Eaton for terrific young pitchers (Gilolito, Lopez, & Dunning). IMO White Sox robbed Nationals on this one. I like Eaton, but they got superstar value for a good, but not great OF, especially as they will likely play him in CF, out of his comfort zone.


I expected Nats to use these kids to get a solid catcher via trade.
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Old 12-07-2016, 08:16 PM
 
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Default Don't Sugarcoat It Dan, Whaddya Really Think?

Bit of rare candor from a club....

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Baltimore Orioles general manager Dan Duquette says the fans have spoken, and they don't want free agent Jose Bautista.

"We told [Bautista's] agent that we are not interested because our fans don't like him," Duquette said on Sportsnet Radio 590 The Fan on Wednesday morning. "Our fans don't like Jose Bautista, with good reason."
Baltimore Orioles GM Dan Duquette doesn't want Jose Bautista


I'm not surprised that Baltimore doesn't want him, but I would have expected the usual diplomatic "We determined that Jose does not fit with our future plans" or such.

Well, maybe he can try the Rangers.
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Old 12-07-2016, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Bit of rare candor from a club....


Baltimore Orioles GM Dan Duquette doesn't want Jose Bautista


I'm not surprised that Baltimore doesn't want him, but I would have expected the usual diplomatic "We determined that Jose does not fit with our future plans" or such.

Well, maybe he can try the Rangers.
A moment later in the same interview, Duquette hinted that if the price was right, that hate might dissipate a tad.

He ain't dumb.
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Old 12-07-2016, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Trumbull/Danbury
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Surprised no one has mentioned White Sox-Nats deal, Eaton for terrific young pitchers (Gilolito, Lopez, & Dunning). IMO White Sox robbed Nationals on this one. I like Eaton, but they got superstar value for a good, but not great OF, especially as they will likely play him in CF, out of his comfort zone.


I expected Nats to use these kids to get a solid catcher via trade.


Yup, totally! I don't say this often but Rizzo got totally taken to the cleaners on that deal. I like Eaton, he's a good player, but he definitely AIN'T Lopez AND Giolito good not to mention Dane Dunning, so the Nats gave up their #1 (Giolito), #3 (Lopez) and #6 (Dunning) rated prospect and they got an OF, a good one, but not star one you give up those prospects for, and have him play out of position in CF.


What amazes me more is that they had the same exact offer on the table (except swapping out Victor Robles (I think the Nats 2nd rated prospect) for Dunning) and they couldn't get Sale with that, but they left that offer on the table for Eaton . I wonder if Rizzo accidently put a kid on the phone that said "Yes" when Rick (Hahn) brought up Eaton?? Any other sensible GM would've said thanks, but no thanks, we'll get back to you, hung up, and laughed.
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Old 12-08-2016, 12:52 PM
 
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I had mentioned that by playing Moncada, the Red Sox would be eating the 17.5 million that they are paying Pablo Sandoval.

Came across this just now...
Boston Red Sox third baseman Pablo Sandoval looks to be in great shape

He was never in this good of shape as a Giant, looks like he is finally getting serious. That he does appear to be ready may be among the reasons why the Sox were willing to depart with Moncada.
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:39 PM
 
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Kenley Jansen and the Los Angeles Dodgers have agreed on a five-year, $80 million deal, a Dodgers source confirmed to ESPN's Jim Bowden on Monday.

Jansen's deal is the second-largest free-agent reliever contract in history, behind Aroldis Chapman's five-year, $86 million deal with the Yankees from earlier this offseason.
Kenley Jansen agrees to 5-year, $80 million deal to remain with Los Angeles Dodgers

They are setting a bad precedent. Chapman's contract broke the short lived reliever contract record of Melancon, and Chapman's record only lasted a few days.

20 million a year for a relief pitcher who is going to throw 70-75 innings is something the Dodgers can afford, but they are shoving up the price of premium closers to where only the rich clubs will be able to afford one. And this trend toward overpaying closers seems based on the idea that somehow or other, runs scored or prevented from scoring in the 9th inning, count for more than the same in any other inning.

Well, perhaps a bit less so more recently. The Cubs and the Indians both showed a willingness this year to bring in their closer if a crisis materialized earlier than the 9th inning. Using your top bullpen guy that way does make him more valuable. Reserving him for save situations only is self defeating.
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Old 12-12-2016, 06:23 PM
 
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With Jansen gone, Nats are out of options for tested, elite closers.
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Old 12-12-2016, 06:46 PM
 
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With Jansen gone, Nats are out of options for tested, elite closers.
They are not out of options, they have fortunately been prevented from over spending on an "elite" closer.

In the days before the save was invented, teams going into the 9th inning with a lead were winning 95% of their games. Since the advent of the 9th inning specialist, teams taking leads into the 9th inning have been winning....................95% of the time.

The value of an elite closer is that he is an elite pitcher, not the particular spot in which he is used.

The save may be the worst stat ever invented. Not only does it not tell you all that much about the quality of the pitcher, it has poisoned the minds of an entire generation of managers into thinking that the 9th inning counts for more than any other inning.
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