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Definitely not comparable to NBA but you've still gotta have a skill set that may somewhat translate to average 30+ ppg in almost any pro league...and Jimmer probably shoots as well or better than any NBA player. It would be interesting to see what he could do given 25-30 minutes per game and light as green as say JJ Redick. However, like a lot of other short lived NBA players, he may be highly skilled but unable to perform at his best given very limited minutes.
BTW - Jimmer did go for 33 points when his Chinese team played the Rockets...granted, it wasn't very competitive but still...
But you're still calling the Chinese league competitive. It's just not.
And the rockets game was a non defense playing team in an exhibition
It's like saying Davis scored 52 in the allstar game so he should be averaging 40+. It's ridiculous
It seems like if someone like Seth Curry can find a place in the league getting 28 minutes/game than Jimmer could too if given a chance. Seth and Jimmer are both 6'2 guards that aren't lightning quick. Seth's "breakout" season came at the age of 26...seems Jimmer was basically written off at 23 after his 2nd year in the league (never played over 11 mpg after that).
Look at JJ Reddick too. He was basically a scrub until his 4th-5th year. Once he started getting plenty of burn (25-30 minutes) he started putting up quality numbers (~15 ppg and 42% from 3). I imagine it's extremely difficult for a scorer to go from playing entire games his entire life to playing limited minutes and getting 3-4 shots off. For players like Jimmer and JJ, the first 3-4 shots are just getting them warmed up.
Ooops didnt see you posted this.
Jimmer is a fantastic shooter, but he's also very crafty with the ball. I think his problem is he needs playing time and the ball. He is not an off the bench spot up shooter.
It'll be interesting to see if he gets picked up after the Chinese season is over for a back up position. Even if its just to finish this season.
But you're still calling the Chinese league competitive. It's just not.
And the rockets game was a non defense playing team in an exhibition
It's like saying Davis scored 52 in the allstar game so he should be averaging 40+. It's ridiculous
Your premis is f*'d up. The fact Davis scored 52 in the allstar game IS an indicator he can play. Doesnt have to be 40 a game. The fact Jimmer is averaging 37 points a game in China IS an indicator he can play. There have been decent NBA guys in the Chinese league that never averaged 37/game. Michael Beasley did average 25 pts/game a couple years ago. Stephon Marbury has had a good career averaging in the low 20s.
Your premis is f*'d up. The fact Davis scored 52 in the allstar game IS an indicator he can play. Doesnt have to be 40 a game. The fact Jimmer is averaging 37 points a game in China IS an indicator he can play. There have been decent NBA guys in the Chinese league that never averaged 37/game. Michael Beasley did average 25 pts/game a couple years ago. Stephon Marbury has had a good career averaging in the low 20s.
Lol
Wow you've really bought in.
The point is, Anthony Davis scored 52 in an exhibition game with ZERO defense. By the math you're playing with he should be averaging 40ppg.
Marbury was a head case far outside his prime.
Beasley was to busy smokin pot.
The FACT is, there's zero competition in china. Jimmer is playing against wanna be D-leaguers, and straight outta high schoolers. Hell yeah he's killing it, he's got nobody to slow him down. Bottom line, he can't hang at the NBA level. PERIOD. Nearly 1/4 of the league has given him a chance and he couldn't break into a rotation. Dude is nothing but a collage phenom turned never was. He's a never will be.
But you're still calling the Chinese league competitive. It's just not.
And the rockets game was a non defense playing team in an exhibition
It's like saying Davis scored 52 in the allstar game so he should be averaging 40+. It's ridiculous
More like saying he scored 73 in China and I think he could score 10-15 ppg in the NBA if given minutes. Let's look at what he's done where he has played significant minutes:
College: 28.9 ppg, unanimous player of the year, broke Danny Ainge's scoring record, BYU top ~10 team in the country
D-league: All Star game MVP, averaged 21/5/4
China: averaging 37 ppg
In the only NBA season he played over 15 mpg (rookie year) his per 36 was 15/3/2. Granted he only shot 39% but that's certainly not unheard of for a rookie. Buddy Hield was a big part of the Cousins trade and he's putting up about the same stats as rookie Jimmer.
Bottom line is that I don't see players like JJ or Seth Curry as being any better than Jimmer.
People don't seem to realize pro ball in China is not nearly as good as other places. Jimmer can shoot. He always could. But in the NBA, even historically spot up shooters(Kapono, Hodges, Legler, Kerr) had athleticism, could handle the ball, and even play the minimum required amount of D required to be successful at the NBA level. Jimmer doesn't provide that. He's not overly athletic, he can't run an offense, and he can't play D. It's no surprise teams aren't lining up for his services.
People don't seem to realize pro ball in China is not nearly as good as other places. Jimmer can shoot. He always could. But in the NBA, even historically spot up shooters(Kapono, Hodges, Legler, Kerr) had athleticism, could handle the ball, and even play the minimum required amount of D required to be successful at the NBA level. Jimmer doesn't provide that. He's not overly athletic, he can't run an offense, and he can't play D. It's no surprise teams aren't lining up for his services.
Look at how long guys like Mike Miller, James Jones and Kyle Korver have stuck around. JJ Redick and Seth Curry any more athletic/better defender than Jimmer?
Look at how long guys like Mike Miller, James Jones and Kyle Korver have stuck around. JJ Redick and Seth Curry any more athletic/better defender than Jimmer?
There's one thing you're neglecting: all are taller than Jimmer, some significantly taller. Jimmer's problem is his skill set is of a spot up shooter at the 2. He measured 6'0.75" at predraft. He got abused by opposing 2s who are all bigger than him and he doesn't have the skill set to be even a backup point. He can go to other countries and dominate where the competition is only a fraction compared to the NBA, but he's not an NBA level talent.
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