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Do you feel safe because there is not so much as a single gun on the island, or do you feel safe because the people living in and near your community are not criminal types? Because I am thinking that there are plenty of guns on Hawaii and you are still feeling safe, even though those guns exist.
You're right but Hawaii does not have a huge inner city gang drug problems that cities like Chicago deal with.
Oh, goody. Another non-resident trying to explain Hawaiian culture to us.
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BTW, murders are half what they were 20 years ago and decreasing in almost every major city except Chicago.
Meanwhile the total of all gunshot deaths, including accidents and suicide, continues to climb. It's already 30,000+ per year in the US, an average of 82 a day, and it has overtaken traffic deaths in 10 states. It's a huge problem that we've ignored far too long.
Simply stated, a clear majority of Americans, and a clear majority of NRA members want something done now to tighten up gun registration and regulation, and clearly Hawai'i has the best model available, because it has been proven effective over many years.
But if you want to debate that point further, again I suggest you take it to the Politics and Other Controversies forum.
Hawai'i has far less "gun culture" than most of the mainland, fewer guns per capita, closer regulations of the guns that are here, limited supply points to buy ammunition, which is very expensive, and the violence that does occur tends more to be of the fistfight variety than anything else.
I agree. Speaking of "culture" traditional Hawaiian weapons such as the various lei o manō (shark-tooth weapons) pictured below can be quite lethal in the right hands....
I wasn't trying to start a debate on gun control. I just wondered if home invasions had continued to be a problem. Since no one answered, I guess no one knows. Happy Holidays.
I wasn't trying to start a debate on gun control. I just wondered if home invasions had continued to be a problem. Since no one answered, I guess no one knows. Happy Holidays.
I just wondered if home invasions had continued to be a problem. Since no one answered, I guess no one knows.
OK, I'll take the bait ("since no one answered ... no one knows"]. Home invasions are not a common problem in Hawaii. They do occasionally occur, but they are not on the forefront of Hawaii crime problems. Crime happens in Hawaii, just like it does in other states. We are not unique ... we do not claim to be "crime free". But for the average resident, worrying about a "home evasion" is not even on our radar.
Meanwhile, one of the cases in the OP has a new development: "It appears that a plea deal has been made in the case of a 20-year-old Hawaiian Paradise Park man who allegedly invaded a neighbor’s home and brutally attacked and burglarized her a little more than a year ago." It seems that assault could have happened anywhere in the U.S., to whoever had the unfortunate luck of living nearby to where that man was living at the time.
clearly Hawai'i has the best model available, because it has been proven effective over many years.
I don't know why people that understand that Hawaii is culturally very different from the rest of the US would somehow presume that only gun laws affect this difference in gun-related crimes, and that that different culture has nothing to do with it. So odd.
I don't know why people that understand that Hawaii is culturally very different from the rest of the US would somehow presume that only gun laws affect this difference in gun-related crimes, and that that different culture has nothing to do with it. So odd.
I find it odd as well.
Last edited by Robin Rossi; 12-25-2012 at 08:02 PM..
Again, FBI crime statistics tell us that the best and safest (for the potential crime victime) response to a criminal asauult is armed resistance with a firearm, no ifs, ands or buts about it.
Do you have a source link for this FBI advice? I'm interested to take a look.
That just seems like that would be odd for the FBI advice to arm yourself.
I'd think the US having one of the highest firearm murder rates in the world would have the FBI being cautious on that.
Did you know that of industrialized nations, the US is #2 in rate of gun deaths. Only Mexico beats us. Yay us.
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