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Old 05-23-2013, 12:50 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Boise has a lot of Mormons too? What %-age?

 
Old 05-23-2013, 02:44 AM
 
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Do you mean social security disability? That's a national program, not local, and the criteria to meet the eligibility requirements is the same in every state and in every city. It's known as SSD, and is an earned income program, exactly like social security. It is funded by payroll tax contributions when people worked, and is not "an entitlement" program. Money from it IS social security money. SSI is a different program and not funded that way. However, the requirements for eligibility are exactly the same as SSD. SSI is for disabled people who did not work enough to have enough money paid in to collect SSD. Most, if not all. of the people that I know on either of these are not lay abouts, they have serious problems. Getting it is often a long and ardous journey full of government red tape and not-very-well trained federal workers. The whole process is set up to stall and discourage applicants. I know people that finally just gave up and went to live in a tent, despite their health issues. They're steadily declining in health. Before labeling people, perhaps take the time to find out what is actually going on with them.

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Old 05-23-2013, 07:18 AM
 
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Boise has a lot of Mormons too? What %-age?
I believe the Boise area is around 15% Mormon. I suppose it's proabably a little lower than that in Boise itself and a little higher in Meridian and Eagle, but of course there will be variation in specific neighborhoods.

FWIW, I live in the SE Meridian/W Boise area and none of my neighbors are LDS. One of our neighbors at our last house was LDS but it didn't matter - they were a really nice family and good neighbors.

The Mormon influence in the Treasure Valley is minimal to non-existent. Southeast Idaho or Utah is another story.
 
Old 05-23-2013, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Whidbey paradise
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Do you mean social security disability? That's a national program, not local, and the criteria to meet the eligibility requirements is the same in every state and in every city. It's known as SSD, and is an earned income program, exactly like social security. It is funded by payroll tax contributions when people worked, and is not "an entitlement" program. Money from it IS social security money. SSI is a different program and not funded that way. However, the requirements for eligibility are exactly the same as SSD. SSI is for disabled people who did not work enough to have enough money paid in to collect SSD. Most, if not all. of the people that I know on either of these are not lay abouts, they have serious problems. Getting it is often a long and ardous journey full of government red tape and not-very-well trained federal workers. The whole process is set up to stall and discourage applicants. I know people that finally just gave up and went to live in a tent, despite their health issues. They're steadily declining in health. Before labeling people, perhaps take the time to find out what is actually going on with them.
In the general sense you seem to be inferring, you are correct. I'm speaking of the exceptions, and there are plenty in Oregon. Most of these deadbeats paid little into the system. There are lawyers and state workers that "coach" them through the process, and "steer" you to co-operative physicians, including psychologists. My wife was a postal clerk and recalls at least twice a week she would process Certified mailings for marijuana cards. Some were in their teens. You think they will be productive workers some day? You won't convince me there aren't cracks in the system, at least here. It all started years ago, when our Doctor governor initiated a state health plan. This system has always been predicated on the need for a very large segment of the population signed up. And now he's back in office again.
Maybe you need to do some research on Oregon's situation, which I was referring to. And No, I wasn't necessarily referring to SS, but in Oregon, the "process" can, and too often does, lead to SS disability.

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Old 05-24-2013, 01:30 AM
 
Location: Nevada
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Just curious- almost everyone I spoke to told me that crime is not in Boise. Like Gangs, bad areas to avoid, all the bad stuff. Is that true- non-existent? Does that go for just Boise? Or Meridian, eagle, nampa and so on?

I would think there has to be crime in every city and areas you just have to stay out of.
 
Old 05-24-2013, 07:22 AM
 
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Of course there is crime in Boise, just like in any town. Everyone just has their own threshold they adhere to, when categorizing whether a town has a crime problem or not. There is crime in Boise and surrounding areas, but it hasn't gotten to a point that it's really considered a problem. (My description based on my own threshold.)
 
Old 05-24-2013, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Tigard, Oregon
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Just curious- almost everyone I spoke to told me that crime is not in Boise. Like Gangs, bad areas to avoid, all the bad stuff. Is that true- non-existent? Does that go for just Boise? Or Meridian, eagle, nampa and so on?

I would think there has to be crime in every city and areas you just have to stay out of.
There is crime in Boise (there's crime everywhere) and there are gangs. My sons can tell you the names of the two in our part of town. HOWEVER, if you don't run in those groups you wouldn't know it. I'd say there is VERY little violent assult crime towards strangers. You pretty much never hear of it. Maybe an altercation at a bar here and there. All said, Boise is pretty safe. I've talked with others and we agreed, all parts of town are safe if you needed to walk a couple blocks after dark. But like any situation, you need to be smart.
 
Old 05-24-2013, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Nevada
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I did not ask the question properly. What I should have asked is where are the crime areas? What streets shoudl be avoided, areas? Like here in las vegas- i could tell you which cross streets not to drive thru. Like that for example. Where are the drive by shootings? If that happens in Boise/Nampa or wherever. Which neighborhoods would you say to avoid? School that have criminal issues, gang wars?

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Of course there is crime in Boise, just like in any town. Everyone just has their own threshold they adhere to, when categorizing whether a town has a crime problem or not. There is crime in Boise and surrounding areas, but it hasn't gotten to a point that it's really considered a problem. (My description based on my own threshold.)
 
Old 05-24-2013, 07:22 PM
 
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My take on the idea that there isn't any significant crime in Boise is simply saying that, "this ain't Houston, Los Angeles, Oakland, Dallas....etc." or any of those other cities that you always see on COPS.
 
Old 05-24-2013, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Whidbey paradise
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My take on the idea that there isn't any significant crime in Boise is simply saying that, "this ain't Houston, Los Angeles, Oakland, Dallas....etc." or any of those other cities that you always see on COPS.
That's funny, because Cops, or a show like that, actually had a segment from Boise not too long ago. Domestic violence, if I recall. They were arguing about which one liked Boise better.
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