Having to leave Boston, frustrated (Chelsea: insurance, gated, salary)

[dpm1]

Originally Posted by Northern-Mike

It sounds like to me that you resent the poor living in Boston. I mean where are they supposed to live? Doesn't everyone deserve decent living accommodations?

When someone with a decent job and a college degree cannot afford to live in the city but are responsible for helping someone else live in the area they would like to makes for easy resentment. As someone who shares his position I find it difficult to disagree. Not only are my dollars going to housing someone in an area I cannot afford my act of subsidizing a large population group is also artificially increasing housing costs and making things even worse for those wishing to enter.

[bigfatdude]

Originally Posted by Northern-Mike

It sounds like to me that you resent the poor living in Boston. I mean where are they supposed to live? Doesn't everyone deserve decent living accommodations?

Housing is a privilege, not a right. I do not resent the poor living in the city, but I do very much resent the fact that many of them get to live in housing normally unaffordable to anyone making under $150K a year. What kind of message do you think it's sending? Go to college, bust your ass and maybe in 15 years or so you'll finally be able to have a decent place in the city. Or don't go to college, don't do anything, and two or three babies later you'll be living in a place that would take you 15 years to get if you do it the right way - wonderful message, isn't it?

[Northern-Mike]

All that glitters isn't gold. If you think that even for one minute that those who are poor have it easy, then you are seriously mistaken.

[dpm1]

Originally Posted by Northern-Mike

All that glitters isn't gold. If you think that even for one minute that those who are poor have it easy, then you are seriously mistaken.

Saying that have it easy and resenting the fact that you are subsidizing their inner city living while also artificially increasing inner city housing costs are not the same.

Do the poor have it easy? Of course not.

Do I have a mild sense of resentment when I subsidize their inner city living and thus drive up housing costs for everyone? Yup.

[bjimmy24]

By he same token, don't assume that the people who work to pay rent have it easy either.

[bigfatdude]

Originally Posted by Northern-Mike

All that glitters isn't gold. If you think that even for one minute that those who are poor have it easy, then you are seriously mistaken.

Many of the honest working folks not pulling in six figure income are monetarily worse off than the poor in the projects once rent is paid - and they have no glitter to show either.

[Northern-Mike]

Originally Posted by dpm1

Saying that have it easy and resenting the fact that you are subsidizing their inner city living while also artificially increasing inner city housing costs are not the same.

Do the poor have it easy? Of course not.

Do I have a mild sense of resentment when I subsidize their inner city living and thus drive up housing costs for everyone? Yup.

Nowk perhaps I'm missing something, but how does the Boston Housing Authority or those who have Section 8 or HUD drive up rents? I would think just the opposite.

[Northern-Mike]

Originally Posted by bigfatdude

Many of the honest working folks not pulling in six figure income are monetarily worse off than the poor in the projects once rent is paid - and they have no glitter to show either.

Well perhaps, but I have been on b
oth side of the fence and neither is at all easy. To qulify for a subsidy, you have to either wait 5 plus years on a list or be absolutely destitute instead.

[Northern-Mike]

Originally Posted by bigfatdude

Many of the honest working folks not pulling in six figure income are monetarily worse off than the poor in the projects once rent is paid - and they have no glitter to show either.

Well perhaps, but I have been on both side of the fence and neither is at all easy. To qualify for a subsidy, you have to either wait 5 plus years on a list or be absolutely destitute instead.

[jayrandom]

Originally Posted by Northern-Mike

Nowk perhaps I'm missing something, but how does the Boston Housing Authority or those who have Section 8 or HUD drive up rents? I would think just the opposite.

It's simple supply and demand. When there is more demand (in the form of housing subsidies) and no change in supply, there is almost always an increase in price. Other effects, like lots of Section 8 renters scaring away other people and locally decreasing rents, may affect certain neighborhoods, but the overall market effect will be to increase prices.

Of course, other affordable housing measures like 40b increase supply, so may partially or entirely offset the increase in demand.