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Old 12-30-2020, 08:14 AM
 
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What are you talking about? The last country to abolish slavery was literally in Africa.
Look at the condition of the woman in most Islamic countries and compare it to North America or Europe. White man bad, LOL.
I think our friend here is forgetting where all those slaves came from, and who sold them. Or, even more likely, he knows but he wants all those originating from Yakub's secret laboratories to believe everything they saw in Roots.
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Old 12-30-2020, 08:15 AM
 
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White people don’t get to determine what’s “American history” sorry. Anything that happens in America at anytime is technically American history doesn’t mean we don’t break it down, demolish. Or throw it In the trash.




Just because white people assign value to something doesn’t mean it unquestionably valued by “Americans” take a step back out of the whiteness. Just because someone was willing to not consider the feelings of black peoples when they did something eons ago doesn’t mean you have to agree because papa told you so or you read a book in English lit. and you certainly don’t need to take up for Mark Twain -he didn’t ask for that.

Not sure where you are going with this. Keep all the black literature while discarding all the white stuff? Who gets to decide this, which and what?

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So a statue in Boston helps us understand our history? Lmaoooo. I think Some people might’ve heard of the emancipation proclamation before they got the Park Square in Boston hahahaha

I could care less about this statue. It's the process I care about.
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Old 12-30-2020, 08:19 AM
 
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Do you understand the many fundamental/major differences between slavery in Africa and transatlantic generational chattel Slavery in the Americas?

You do understand slavery is still ongoing in most of the world? including the US? But that’s not the same as chattel slavery, or is that missing on you?

White man has done a lot of bad, yes. Other people have to but it’s generally more localized and “in-house” like what you reference in the Middle East. Less Hitler, (Mitch McConnell), King Charles, type bad.

More localized? What? Have you ever heard of the Arab slave trade? You know they hade trade centers as South as Madagascar? More localized just because it didn't affect you directly maybe?

Other people did more localized stuff? Check out Timur, Genghis Khan, the Japanese empire, Moghuls and many more then let's talk about how localized these were.
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Old 12-30-2020, 08:21 AM
 
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Let's just remove any statue in public place in the US then. MLK doesn't hold any sentimental/cultural meaning to White, Hispanic or Asian people. I mean, literally anything can be said about anyone.

You either believe in the idea of the US as a country or you don't. If you believe in it, Washington deserves statues even if he owned slaves. Otherwise, forget about it. Just take all statues down.
MLK does hold that special space for most Americans. Just not bigots.

And he never owned slaves! booyah.
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Old 12-30-2020, 08:23 AM
 
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More localized? What? Have you ever heard of the Arab slave trade? You know they hade trade centers as South as Madagascar? More localized just because it didn't affect you directly maybe?

Other people did more localized stuff? Check out Timur, Genghis Khan, the Japanese empire, Moghuls and many more then let's talk about how localized these were.
Genghis Khan never really made it out of Western Asia and presided over super sparsely populated land.

The Arab slave trade was real and a thing. Still wasn’t akin to American slavery though. But it was harsh ugly and a very long term thing. But these are global conflicts of 800+ years ago, not like 50 years ago.
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Old 12-30-2020, 08:24 AM
 
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There's a big difference between teaching/owning your history and glorifying it with a statue.
A statue the glorifies emancipation. It literally says emancipation on the pedestal.

The pope should have torn down the Colosseum 1,000 years ago, considering how many Christians were killed inside. In fact he should have destroyed any roman statue made before Constantine.
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Old 12-30-2020, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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A statue the glorifies emancipation. It literally says emancipation on the pedestal.

The pope should have torn down the Colosseum 1,000 years ago, considering how many Christians were killed inside. In fact he should have destroyed any roman statue made before Constantine.
And yet you’re on the losing side of this argument. Why do you think that is?
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Old 12-30-2020, 08:30 AM
 
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A statue the glorifies emancipation. It literally says emancipation on the pedestal.

The pope should have torn down the Colosseum 1,000 years ago, considering how many Christians were killed inside. In fact he should have destroyed any roman statue made before Constantine.
All those outer party sheeple out there are really eager to do their daily 15 minute fist-shaking and shove things down the memory hole, but they forget what happens in the end...
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Old 12-30-2020, 08:30 AM
 
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Genghis Khan never really made it out of Western Asia and presided over super sparsely populated land.

The Arab slave trade was real and a thing. Still wasn’t akin to American slavery though. But it was harsh ugly and a very long term thing. But these are global conflicts of 800+ years ago, not like 50 years ago.
Sparsely populated? He conquered China! A quarter of the world population lived in the Mongol empire at the time.

Slavery didn't end 50 years ago in the US. And the Arab slave trade didn't end until the XX century (officially).
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Old 12-30-2020, 08:31 AM
 
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White people created this entire situation (racial hierarchy, brutalized generational slavery whose impact we still carry in our bloodlines) so to an extent this is comical to me that Aunt Jemima a random statue and whatever is your grievance lmao. Do you actually hear yourselves? It sounds ridiculous and that’s why cities and states are willfully ignoring calls to not remove these statues.

If you're referring ton the American slave trade as it relates to America, yes certain White people did. But your implication that all White people share a common heritage of brutalization and slavery is simply an example of the ignorance and racism you are here railing against. It is also worth noting that all races have been enslaved throughout world history and "white people" didn't specifically invent racism, conquest, war, or any other primitive societal practices.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa
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