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Old 11-14-2022, 03:24 PM
 
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Narcan doesn't cost much and first responders have a duty to act when a life is in danger. They don't function as mobile Judges and Juries. We haven't slipped into third world status....yet. The only free pass a criminal gets when revived is a ride to the courthouse. What happens there is another topic.
Narcan itself may not cost much but administering it to revive a repeat offender does. They are then free to deal and hit themselves up again. In dealing again they are killing many others who overdose and die on the drugs the 'revived' offender dealt. In other words, saving the life of the one offender is at the expense of killing many others. Makes no sense.
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Old 11-14-2022, 03:27 PM
 
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Narcan itself may not cost much but administering it to revive a repeat offender does. They are then free to deal and hit themselves up again. In dealing again they are killing many others who overdose and die on the drugs the 'revived' offender dealt.
Whatever


Nobody in their right mind wants a society where we hire first responders to make spiteful curbside decisions on whether they try to save a life, or leave someone to die in the gutter. I'm grateful to say that no first responder I've ever known would assume such a task. And I have known many.
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Old 11-14-2022, 05:56 PM
 
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Because they are people. And some of them are other people's children, parents, and siblings. It's easy to look at addiction on a moral plane, but it's really not a moral issue it's a health issue.
Problem is, lefties make zero distinction between addicts and dope peddlers, to them they’re all victims who deserve at least 3672762673837627727 second chances.
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Old 11-14-2022, 05:59 PM
 
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Narcan itself may not cost much but administering it to revive a repeat offender does. They are then free to deal and hit themselves up again. In dealing again they are killing many others who overdose and die on the drugs the 'revived' offender dealt. In other words, saving the life of the one offender is at the expense of killing many others. Makes no sense.
Narcan is only $34 but more often than not OD also involves a stay at the ER which is closer to $10,000, needless to say paid by the taxpayers, and if the zombie happens to be of violent variety it can also involve a whole lot of smashed equipment at the said ER which is closer to $100,000, also paid by the taxpayers.
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Old 11-14-2022, 06:29 PM
 
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Narcan is only $34 but more often than not OD also involves a stay at the ER which is closer to $10,000, needless to say paid by the taxpayers, and if the zombie happens to be of violent variety it can also involve a whole lot of smashed equipment at the said ER which is closer to $100,000, also paid by the taxpayers.
Bostongymjunkie doesn't see it that way...the zombie is someone's bro who killed someone else's bro and for that they deserve another chance......at the expense of taxpayers.
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Old 11-14-2022, 06:36 PM
 
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Bostongymjunkie doesn't see it that way...the zombie is someone's bro who killed someone else's bro and for that they deserve another chance......at the expense of taxpayers.
Because BGJ knows that only armchair first responders come up with these extreme scenarios and then pass them off as representing the entire population of those who OD. BGJ also has a conscience and a respect for human life, law and duty. Armchair warriors don't need to concern themselves with duty, because more often than not their only duty is to themselves.
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Old 11-14-2022, 06:58 PM
 
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Because BGJ knows that only armchair first responders come up with these extreme scenarios and then pass them off as representing the entire population of those who OD. BGJ also has a conscience and a respect for human life, law and duty. Armchair warriors don't need to concern themselves with duty, because more often than not their only duty is to themselves.
Not extreme examples, they are daily occurrences in MA and I'm sure across the nation. Just like this POS drug dealer who took the life of an innocent woman last week. BGJ wants him to have a 234,212,332nd chance though because he has a conscience. https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local...crash/2890555/
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Old 11-14-2022, 07:04 PM
 
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Not extreme examples, they are daily occurrences in MA and I'm sure across the nation. Just like this POS drug dealer who took the life of an innocent woman last week. BGJ wants him to have a 234,212,332nd chance though because he has a conscience. https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local...crash/2890555/
So you're claiming that police, fire, EMT personnel showing up at OD scenes should first investigate the character and background of those people and decide whether to revive them or just leave them to die in the gutter based on their feelings and beliefs about what they may have done? You've got problems woman.
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Old 11-14-2022, 07:11 PM
 
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So you're claiming that police, fire, EMT personnel showing up at OD scenes should first investigate the character and background of those people and decide whether to revive them or just leave them to die in the gutter based on their feelings and beliefs about what they may have done? You've got problems woman.
Everyone knows ain't no one got time for that. However, Narcan should be banned/not approved for use at OD scenes in the field. It's just a form of enablement in my opinion. The meth head was revived, he/she has a free pass to do it again and knows Narcan is only a call away.
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Old 11-14-2022, 07:14 PM
 
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Everyone knows ain't no one got time for that. However, Narcan should be banned/not approved for use at OD scenes in the field. It's just a form of enablement in my opinion. The meth head was revived, he/she has a free pass to do it again and knows Narcan is only a call away.
Yeah because you already know what everyone's done and their overall worth. You're the same fool who was bragging about speeding up on the road when someone passed you, and brazenly bellowed you wouldn't feel bad at all if a child was killed because of your actions. Thanks, but your opinion don't mean jack to me. Bye low life.
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