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Old 07-27-2008, 10:07 PM
 
Location: BUFFALO, NY
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Really impressive pics. I've never really seen Buffalo's waterfront other than along route 5 along those empty industrial shells, and that's the impression most have. The new waterfront is incredible, could spur what Baltimore's waterfront did for it. I bet the sunsets are fantastic there.
Indeed - Buffalo is rated for one of the best sunset locations in the Nation. It is absolutely beautiful every summer night along the waterfront
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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I see many people upstate complain about tax money going downstate. You may want to do some research before you look foolish. About $11 billion goes upstate every year. NYC is a city filled with corporate headquarters, Wall St, the fashion industry, publishing, ect..... People here make more money and hence pay more taxes. In frastructure is more expensive per person in rural areas because fewer tax payers support it. The poverty rate in upstate cities is higher than NYC and it doesn't have the wealth to back it up. The problem with tax reveue is that NYS pays D.C. $40 billion a year more that it gets back. This creates a need for higher state taxes.
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Old 07-28-2008, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Buffalo :-)
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jawny08, At this stage of productivity, I hear not many people squabbling about upstate vs. downstate right now. We more than know (at least I) of downstate's rewards being much higher, yet if to rain on a parade, let it not be Buffalo's. We've paid too much in taxes, we've waited much longer for this beauty on the water ways, inner harbor, outer harbor, waterfront..... a congressman's election (this year), there's a readiness to break free and enjoy prosperity as our change, finally.

Everything is at cost, this we know, yet shall we bite off the hand that feeds us? I'd prefer thanking the federal government and the work (no matter who it is) for this sight for sore eyes in down town Buffalo.

it's paying the fare and enjoying the ride. Would you rather we just wait for ships to dock on their own? Why not invite them?
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Old 07-30-2008, 07:08 PM
 
Location: BUFFALO, NY
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jawny08, At this stage of productivity, I hear not many people squabbling about upstate vs. downstate right now. We more than know (at least I) of downstate's rewards being much higher, yet if to rain on a parade, let it not be Buffalo's. We've paid too much in taxes, we've waited much longer for this beauty on the water ways, inner harbor, outer harbor, waterfront..... a congressman's election (this year), there's a readiness to break free and enjoy prosperity as our change, finally.

Everything is at cost, this we know, yet shall we bite off the hand that feeds us? I'd prefer thanking the federal government and the work (no matter who it is) for this sight for sore eyes in down town Buffalo.

it's paying the fare and enjoying the ride. Would you rather we just wait for ships to dock on their own? Why not invite them?
Great points! Now... Where's Jawny?
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Old 07-31-2008, 11:47 PM
 
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Any new buildings downtown make me happy. I know there is a lot of great historical architecture there, but when buildings are just plain falling apart, something needs to be done. Either remodel or rebuild.

There are way too many preservationists around here that complain and shoot down potential development projects.

A few people are actually moving back downtown into old buildings converted into modern loft spaces. That's a good start, but so many more things need to be done to bring back downtown.

I went on an architectural tour of downtown buffalo on a Sunday morning once, and there was not a single person around except for my tour group. Car traffic was almost completely non-existent. That really saddened me quite a bit. It was kind of like one of those Discovery Channel specials that displays computer generated cities following a hypothetical mysterious disappearance of all human life.

I know downtown Buffalo is completely alive during Monday through Friday work hours. There are some good restaurants downtown only open for lunch on weekdays, as it would be pointless to remain open when the area is deserted. Many people work downtown, but no one actually lives there, it seems.
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Old 08-01-2008, 12:08 AM
 
Location: BUFFALO, NY
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Any new buildings downtown make me happy. I know there is a lot of great historical architecture there, but when buildings are just plain falling apart, something needs to be done. Either remodel or rebuild.

There are way too many preservationists around here that complain and shoot down potential development projects.

A few people are actually moving back downtown into old buildings converted into modern loft spaces. That's a good start, but so many more things need to be done to bring back downtown.

I went on an architectural tour of downtown buffalo on a Sunday morning once, and there was not a single person around except for my tour group. Car traffic was almost completely non-existent. That really saddened me quite a bit. It was kind of like one of those Discovery Channel specials that displays computer generated cities following a hypothetical mysterious disappearance of all human life.

I know downtown Buffalo is completely alive during Monday through Friday work hours. There are some good restaurants downtown only open for lunch on weekdays, as it would be pointless to remain open when the area is deserted. Many people work downtown, but no one actually lives there, it seems.
Thousands of people have moved downtown from the suburbs in the past years. It's a shame that it is completely deserted on the weekends - except for Elmwood Village and Allentown, but there is no life at all on the weekends. On a lunch hour in Downtown Buffalo during the week, Thousands and thousands of workers, etc flock all over Buffalo, and the fountains in the plazas are running and there is much activity. If only we could harness that into the weekends as well.
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Old 08-02-2008, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Tonawanda
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You've never been to Chippewa Street on the weekend?
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Old 08-02-2008, 09:03 PM
 
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My husband went to UB. I just showed him those pictures and he got excited! We may be heading toward your direction! (and outta Charlotte!)
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Old 08-02-2008, 09:24 PM
 
Location: BUFFALO, NY
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You've never been to Chippewa Street on the weekend?
Oh I have, that and Elmwood/Allen are the only places alive downtown on the weekends. We need more activity in the Downtown Core

Nice pic by the way!
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Old 08-02-2008, 09:26 PM
 
Location: BUFFALO, NY
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My husband went to UB. I just showed him those pictures and he got excited! We may be heading toward your direction! (and outta Charlotte!)
Great! I'll and my Buffalonian friends will be waiting for you - here in Beautiful Buffalo
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