Jerry Brown, Man with a Plan (Santa Barbara: price, castles, farm)

[.highnlite]

Naivete at its best...

Neither party, nor this generation of electorate, will allow your plan.

With honesty and realism, care to try again?

Hey, Tim wanted a plan,, I gave him one. I doubt the budget gap will be solved, and I don't really care, it does not affect my life in the least.

Hey, a moment of clarity on Tim's part;

I highly doubt this guy works or is even affected by California's woes

I don't work, except at my hobby jobs, which are numerous, and I like Tim and the rest of you, are not affected by California's woes

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

One wonders what people who write this sort of nonsense did for a living, gosh, they could not have run a business, if they had they would understand that the sentence is nonsense, they must have worked for the liberal commie State of California, or sumpin.

Ya know. You're right. They might have. Of course, they just might have owned a small business in the Sacratomato suburbs as well. You'll never know!

But, first the nonsense, "live on grandaddy's farm" Duh, that would provide some sort of tax break? Do Tell.
But, sometimes "the sort who live on grandaddy's farm" pay around $600,000 each year, just in property tax. That would of course make "the sort who live on grandaddy's farm" snicker at people that complain about high taxes, like totally, what do they know about high taxes? Nuttin.

And since it's such a laughing matter, let's kick it up 15% just for chuckles. If $600K is good, closer to $700K is better, right?

[.highnlite]

You could be right, but then why would they write such a dumb statement?

[Reason42]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

Hey, Tim wanted a plan,, I gave him one. I doubt the budget gap will be solved, and I don't really care, it does not affect my life in the least.

Hey, a moment of clarity on Tim's part;

I don't work, except at my hobby jobs, which are numerous, and I like Tim and the rest of you, are not affected by California's woes

Issue done and over for you.

Jerry's plan will directly affect my life...

You are trolling for conversation/interaction/fight, which is a different topic than Ol' moonbeam and his plan...

[TimC2462]

[=.highnlite;17113988]Hey, Tim wanted a plan,, I gave him one. I doubt the budget gap will be solved, and I don't really care, it does not affect my life in the least.

Which perfectly explains your stance on most discussion threads. You assume your fix is a simple one at that.

Hey, a moment of clarity on Tim's part;

I don't work, except at my hobby jobs, which are numerous, and I like Tim and the rest of you, are not affected by California's woes

Next time, think twice about making assumptions. I, like the rest of my working family members, are affected by California's woes.

[.highnlite]

Which perfectly explains your stance on most discussion threads. You assume your fix is a simple one at th

Perhaps you could explain those two sentences.

Next time, think twice about making assumptions. I, like the rest of my working family members, are affected by California's woe

Ok, I will bite, how does the budget gap affect you and your family?

[.highnlite]

Issue done and over for you.

Jerry's plan will directly affect my life...

You are trolling for conversation/interaction/fight, which is a different topic than Ol' moonbeam and his plan.

mmm, another one, care to explain how "Jerry's plan" will affect your life?

You are trolling for conversation/interaction/fight, which is a different topic than Ol' moonbeam and his plan.

And what are you doing here? Selling Timeshares? There should be no "fight" just accept what I say, and or ask me to support my statements, easy enough, you could try that too.

You probably already know that I don't think much about Conservatives critical thinking skills, and whenever one uses the term Moonbeam about Jerry Brown, why that just reinforces by contention that they don't think, they just react emotionally to stimuli, like little girls.

[Reason42]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

mmm, another one, care to explain how "Jerry's plan" will affect your life?



And what are you doing here? Selling Timeshares? There should be no "fight" just accept what I say, and or ask me to support my statements, easy enough, you could try that too.

You probably already know that I don't think much about Conservatives critical thinking skills, and whenever one uses the term Moonbeam about Jerry Brown, why that just reinforces by contention that they don't think, they just react emotionally to stimuli, like little girls.

4day ago...

same argument...

yaghnnnnnn...




Tuesday, April 06, 2010
Study: California Public Pensions Underfunded by Over $500B

California's three major public pension funds are underfunded by more than half a trillion dollars, according to a report released Monday, the San Jose Mercury News reports.
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) commissioned the study, which was prepared by graduate students at the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research (Theriault, San Jose Mercury News, 4/5).
The study examined:

• The California Public Employees' Retirement System;
• The California State Teachers' Retirement System; and
• The University of California's retirement system (Walters, "Capitol Alert," Sacramento Bee, 4/5).

The three systems serve about 2.6 million retirees (Bussewitz, AP/Ventura County Star, 4/5).
Report Details
The Stanford report estimates that California's shortfall for government pensions and health care benefits is about $535 billion (Anderson, Contra Costa Times, 4/5).
Researchers tallied CalPERS' unfunded liabilities at $239.7 billion and CalSTRS' liabilities at $156.7 billion.
The new figures are significantly higher than previous estimates from the pension funds. In July 2008, CalPERS estimated its unfunded liabilities at $38.6 billion and CalSTRS estimated its liabilities at $16.2 billion (AP/Ventura County Star, 4/5).
Pension Liabilities Could Lead To Health Cuts, Other Changes
The Stanford report suggests that California would need to put $360 billion into its pension and health benefit systems immediately to have an 80% chance of meeting 80% of the obligations within 16 years (Contra Costa Times, 4/5).
Schwarzenegger in a statement (http://gov.ca.gov/press-release/14745/ - broken link) said the study "reinforces the immediate need to address our staggering pension debt." He added, "The consequences are clear: increasingly large portions of state funding for programs Californians hold dear such as schools, parks and health care will be diverted to pay for this debt."
The governor previously has proposed tightening eligibility requirements for retiree health care benefits and other changes to the pension system (AP/Ventura County Star, 4/5).
The new report echoes some of Schwarzenegger's proposals and calls for lawmakers to:

• Reduce benefits for new public employees;
• Raise annual pension contributions; and
• Shift workers into a partial 401k benefit plan (San Jose Mercury News, 4/5).

Read more: Study: California Public Pensions Underfunded by Over $500B - California Healthline






Jerry Brown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Brown proposed the establishment of a state space academy and the purchasing of a satellite that would be launched into orbit to provide emergency communications for the state —- a proposal similar to one that was indeed eventually adopted. In 1979, an out-of-state columnist, Mike Royko, then at the Chicago Sun-Times, picked up on the nickname from Brown's girlfriend at the time, Linda Ronstadt, who was quoted in a 1978 Rolling Stone magazine interview humorously calling him "Moonbeam".[29][30]

[.highnlite]

First, you are a state employee? I thought you Conservatives hate the commie/socialist state.

Second, you are dependent on the state pension for your retirement? You need to change that, you need to grow some income. A state pension, like Social Security should never be more than beer money. See what I mean about Conservative Critical thinking, and I guess financial planning skills.

So, his girlfriend had a nickname for him, and Mike Royko picked up, and later apologized for using it, which gives you the right to use as a pejorative? Probably because Rush Limbaugh also uses it.

Heck, how about giving us some of the nicknames your old girlfriends gave you

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by .highnlite

First, you are a state employee? I thought you Conservatives hate the commie/socialist state.

Second, you are dependent on the state pension for your retirement? You need to change that, you need to grow some income. A state pension, like Social Security should never be more than beer money. See what I mean about Conservative Critical thinking, and I guess financial planning skills.
So, his girlfriend had a nickname for him, and Mike Royko picked up, and later apologized for using it, which gives you the right to use as a pejorative? Probably because Rush Limbaugh also uses it.

Heck, how about giving us some of the nicknames your old girlfriends gave you

Better than being dependent upon Granddaddy's largesse, small pensions and and that awful "socialist" medical care better known as VA benefits; especially if you never had "boots on the ground" in a combat situation.

Some of us simply planned better and did so on our own -- you know, pensions, Social Security, 401Ks, money market accounts, etc. It's lovely not to be beholden and dependent!