Texas governor Rick Perry wants California businesses (San Jose, San Francisco: apartment, minimum wage)

[Newbe10]

Originally Posted by TVC15

It is just total ignorance. I often come acoss people in some of these hosptial's that have never heard of the TMC. As much as that blows my mind hearing it from a medical professional it does not surprise me that I hear it in CA. But when I do come across the medical professions who know of the TMC...they bow at my feet knowing that I was educated there.

Crazy for sure to say that the TMC is equal to UCSF or Stanford They can't help what they don't understand.

I agree. TMC in Houston is one of the top spots in the world for world-class care. I know that when Congresswoman Giffords was shot in the head in Tucson, AZ, she was sent to the Texas Medical Center in Houston and not only survived her injuries, but is expected to make a full recovery.

I don't know too many medical complexes in this country or world that could have helped her survive and recover like she has. I will say that UCSF and Stanford are probably the best that California has to offer, so they are not to be overlooked.

[nslander]

Originally Posted by Gentoo

Thank you. like said in my post, I wasn't sure if this was common in other states. Now, is CA doing this same thing?

Not nearly to the extent TX does. I posted the per capita stats pages ago. The question should be: why must TX pay that premium?

[cardinal2007]

Originally Posted by TVC15

Poverty Rate Highest In Nation Based On New Census Department Figures:

California has a poverty rate of 23.5 percent, the highest of any state in the country, according to figures released this week by the United States Census Bureau. < click on this link

According to the link:

Official**
3-year average
16.3%

It is not over 20 percent as you claim.

[Newbe10]

Originally Posted by Senno

I do find it kinda funny that according to the stats Bakersfield isn't all that far behind Dallas.

91st to 104th.

That is good! I like to see even those cities in the Central Valley excel in healthcare. I was stationed at NAS Lemoore for 2 years, and because of the pollution in the valley, a few of my colleges, who had never had any respiratory problems before in their lives, developed asthma while they were at NAS Lemoore.

Personally, if I had developed Asthma, I would have requested transfer to either Visalia or Bakersfield. I recognize how good those health systems are. TMC in Houston is good, but I also give credit where credit is due and will say that California offers MANY great choices in terms of Medical Care.

[TVC15]

Originally Posted by cardinal2007

According to the link:

Official**
3-year average
16.3%

It is not over 20 percent as you claim.

My post came directly from the article. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2132920.html

This is the first sentence from that article: California has a poverty rate of 23.5 percent, the highest of any state in the country, according to figures released this week by the United States Census Bureau.

I did not claim 20%. The Census Bureau did...actually they claimed 23.5%

Perhaps there is something you are overlooking or that they are overlooking. I will look at it tomorrow. It is bed time for me.

Good Night!

[nslander]

Originally Posted by RaymondChandlerLives

Again, that is a supplemental poverty measure, not the official one. It's alao a measure that completely ignores supply and demand and pretends that places like Mississippi have the same desirability as California. That's absurd at face value. People would rather pay more to live in California then save more money and live in Montana. That's how desirability works.

It's revealing when you consider the lengths people will travel to push an agenda, all the while feigning ignorance of something as simple as "supply and demand". Specifically, as it relates to housing:

Even though California’s richer residents face high tax rates, lower-income households are more likely to leave. From 2005 to 2011, California lost 158 people with household incomes under $20,000 for every 100 who arrived, and 165 for every 100 people with household incomes between $20,000 and $40,000. In contrast, just slightly more people with household incomes in the $100,000-$200,000 range left than came to California (103 out per 100 in), and California actually gained a hair more people in the $200,000+ range than it lost (99 out per 100 in).

Trulia Trends | Real Estate Data for the Rest of Us

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by nslander

Not nearly to the extent TX does. I posted the per capita stats pages ago. The question should be: why must TX pay that premium?

Why is that?

[cardinal2007]

Originally Posted by yeahthatguy

You forgot the latest data that includes cost of living :
California Poverty Rate Highest In Nation Based On New Census Department Figures

Nice try though.

As crazy as it may sound to you, CPM is not the official rate by the Census Bureau, nice try though. You can't find something to say that California has the highest rate, because it doesn't, CPM is not the official measure, though I'm sure some people in Sacramento would love it to be.

[nslander]

Originally Posted by Gentoo

Why is that?

Check out the NYT analysis I posted. I'd add: the mcjobs TX is poaching (which are almost negligible) generally dont pay enough to pay a note in CA.

But it's useful pub for a jackass like Perry.

[cardinal2007]

Originally Posted by TVC15

My post came directly from the article. California Poverty Rate Highest In Nation Based On New Census Department Figures

This is the first sentence from that article: California has a poverty rate of 23.5 percent, the highest of any state in the country, according to figures released this week by the United States Census Bureau.

I did not claim 20%. The Census Bureau did...actually they claimed 23.5%

Perhaps there is something you are overlooking or that they are overlooking. I will look at it tomorrow. It is bed time for me.

Good Night!

It's the CPM, the other guy pointed it out, I am only showing the official numbers, since he is claiming them as if it were the official numbers, but no by the official federal definition of poverty (By the Census Bureau anyway) California has 16% or so of its residents earning below the threshold, you can try to argue about the CPM, but unless you lobby Congress it will probably not be adopted as the official rate.

The journalist used that as a catch to get your attention, being a little dishonest to be truthful, but it seemed to work on you, as you didn't see that it is not the official rate, it is in the middle and last few paragraphs.

BTW, upon further looking it over, it looks like the Census Bureau numbers are not used by the government for anything, the Department of Health and Human Services decides who gets assistance, not the Census Bureau, I have not being able to find poverty numbers from them, official,unofficial or otherwise.