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Old 05-08-2019, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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It is important to note that many of our early California friends who did not leave - continue to rent and have never been able to buy a house.

They chastized us for leaving. Now that we are back and have bought a home - they are thinking differently.
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What exactly are they thinking? That they move, make their fortune and can then move back and afford a house? Just wondering.
That’s how it worked for me except I don’t think I will be moving back to California, but you never know.
Most people when they leave they can not afford to come back. Not sure why someone without a house in California would leave, buy a home somewhere else and decide to come back.

When I was a kid we would see people leave the area and not be able to afford to come back. That happens today. Most homeowners know that when they sell the California home and buy a home somewhere else, they won't be coming back, because they more than likely can't afford to come back.
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Old 05-08-2019, 06:40 PM
 
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TX is far larger than CA and problems in one area are not an issue in others.


Among other things, the weather in Amarillo is quite different from the weather in Brownsville.
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Old 05-08-2019, 07:21 PM
 
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Among other things, the weather in Amarillo is quite different from the weather in Brownsville.
And Texarkana.
Kinda like SD and ..... Indio or ...... Mt Shasta
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Old 05-09-2019, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I lived in Utah for 28 years. They have DAILY earthquakes ranging from the low 1s to 3.5. It's a fact of living in the entire West.

California is a big state. There are areas that have never had any destruction from earthquakes.

Who is diverting? Why it's the Texans..... who experience more than one hurricane a season. Oh - and the entire region moves in to Texas as safe haven - when they are going to be the target.

Have fun with that climate change now, hear?
No, Texas does not experience more than one hurricane a year. Where did you get that piece of wisdom? AS for living in many places in Ca and never being affected by an earthquake, you are very lucky. We lived in both the bay area, So. Ca and as far north as Eureka. We experienced many of them, some extremely damaging. All I can say, there were a couple of times we thanked our lucky stars for federal, low interest loans to make repairs. There was the 1971 quake that almost costs my sister her life. It may have been 72, I am not quite sure of the year, but the damage was awful.
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Old 05-09-2019, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Among other things, the weather in Amarillo is quite different from the weather in Brownsville.
Exactly and when someone talks about earth quakes of 1 to 3 in Utah or any other state, that is not quite the same as the massive earthquakes in Ca. We have had a few of those little ones here. They are actually almost fun.
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Old 05-09-2019, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Well the worst I had was a wall damaged when I lived in LA. But not far from me a wing of the local hospital collapsed, SFV.
was that the one that affected the Veteran's hospital or was it the quake in 1989?
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Old 05-09-2019, 02:25 PM
 
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was that the one that affected the Veteran's hospital or was it the quake in 1989?
71, and yes that hospital and overpasses on the FRWY's. I did not live that far from it.


https://www.dailynews.com/2016/02/08/sylmar-san-fernando-earthquake-45-years-ago-tuesday-64-killed/


The 1971 Sylmar quake — dubbed the San Fernando earthquake by scientists and the biggest shaker to date in Los Angeles history — spread death and destruction as far as downtown.


Freeways buckled. Sewer lines broke. Gas lines exploded. Power lines fell, telephone service cut. Chimneys toppled. Windows shattered. Dams threatened to burst. And thousands of homes, businesses, hospitals and government agencies were turned upside down.

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Old 05-11-2019, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Austin
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The main issues in Texas caused by hurricanes are due to ideologically driven policy. In most of Texas, the attitude is that we need to just build as many suburban housing developments as possible and that kind of growth is virtuous. Houston actually has no zoning laws, so you can build pretty much anything anywhere. The same goes for the exurbs. As a result, suburban housing developments were built in areas that are literally referred to as "reservoirs" that are designed to flood. That shouldn't be done to begin with, but that information also wasn't disclosed to buyers. The massive sprawl has also created flooding in older neighborhoods that didn't flood before.

At the coast, development has been allowed and is continuing despite rising sea level. In Galveston the sea level has risen 18 inches over the past 50 years and is now rising at 1 inch per year. These houses are flooded with every storm surge, and will be totally flooded in a decade or two. But they're still building new ones because ideology trumps science and measurement.

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Old 05-11-2019, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Formerly Pleasanton Ca, now in Marietta Ga
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The main issues in Texas caused by hurricanes are due to ideologically driven policy. In most of Texas, the attitude is that we need to just build as many suburban housing developments as possible and that kind of growth is virtuous. Houston actually has no zoning laws, so you can build pretty much anything anywhere. The same goes for the exurbs. As a result, suburban housing developments were built in areas that are literally referred to as "reservoirs" that are designed to flood. That shouldn't be done to begin with, but that information also wasn't disclosed to buyers. The massive sprawl has also created flooding in older neighborhoods that didn't flood before.

At the coast, development has been allowed and is continuing despite rising sea level. In Galveston the sea level has risen 18 inches over the past 50 years and is now rising at 1 inch per year. These houses are flooded with every storm surge, and will be totally flooded in a decade or two. But they're still building new ones because ideology trumps science and measurement.
But aren’t they raising the height of new builds constantly? I used to own 4 rental beach houses there and all the new builds were on stilts that we’re getting higher and higher.
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Old 05-11-2019, 05:05 PM
 
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But aren’t they raising the height of new builds constantly? I used to own 4 rental beach houses there and all the new builds were on stilts that we’re getting higher and higher.
They are implementing a variety of changes and proposing additional ones to deal with the issue. You can look it up on google. Oh, ideologically driven I guess.
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