Coronavirus (San Diego, Orange, San Joaquin: grey, how much, pharmacies)

[TheseGoTo11]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

Bars, as alcohol-fueled indoor social environments, are some of the most dangerous situations outside the home in this pandemic.

Any data on this?

Most deadly places are the overcrowded homes of essential food processing workers. State data is pretty clear on this, but it doesn't fit the media narrative of the COVID hysterics and shamers.

[goodheathen]

Originally Posted by TheseGoTo11

Any data on this?

Most deadly places are the overcrowded homes of essential food processing workers. State data is pretty clear on this, but it doesn't fit the media narrative of the COVID hysterics and shamers.

My name isn't Google. I think you could have found this easily. Of any environment that the government can easily address, bars probably are right up there with indoor concerts. And there are many more people who want to go to them than there are food processing workers and their household members.
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...ovid-19-spread
It of course is hard to know where to draw the line between bar and restaurant and there's a ton of variety among bars. That ties into "deadly," because some bars draw much younger (healthier) crowds than others, but - whether or not it can be traced - anything that spreads COVID eventually brings it to high-risk people, and I think between vaccines and improved medical care the result is shifting from deadly to seriously ill.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by joosoon

There are no substitutes right now. Seriously. It's an issue.

There are substitutes (although it probably depends on the district). The problem is, they're not paid to participate in the required additional virtual meetings, trainings, and de-briefings that were never part of the job before. Nor are as many able to adapt to the changing technology of virtual teaching, so fewer subs are available.

[TheseGoTo11]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

Want to know what it's like to be thrown out of here? I have no use for comments like that. Probably every credible expert agrees with me that bars are a big problem. The counties themselves don't seem to be advocating for their reopening. No matter how dangerous food processing jobs are, those jobs make comparatively little impact on virus transmission in the urbanized big counties. And you know the state has a tiered system, so that food processing outbreaks are unlikely to affect closures and reopening plans in counties with little of that industry.

Ok, tough guy, been on the site for 13 years. There is not a fact or data to back up any of what you're saying, it's got as much credibility as Jewish space lasers or some QAnon nonsense. Anyone who's looked at the data and isn't blindly following the fear porn knows bars are not the problem when cases and deaths correlate extremely closely to overcrowded housing. This is why thoughtful epidemiologists and public health experts slammed Newsolini for closing outdoor dining and parks in SF and LA when the virus was spreading inside overcrowded homes.

The comment about food processing jobs is laughable, do you really think people in San Joaquin County are 6x less responsible than people in Marin or SF?...or might it have something to do with where they work and how many of them are forced to live.

[TheseGoTo11]

Newsolini being called out by counties and universities for not releasing public health data.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/03/...zed-with-data/

[sav858]

Originally Posted by TheseGoTo11

Newsolini being called out by counties and universities for not releasing public health data.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/03/...zed-with-data/

Bbbuuuuttt he follows the data and science?!?!?! How could that be????

[JGC97]

Originally Posted by TheseGoTo11

Newsolini being called out by counties and universities for not releasing public health data.

This may be the reason people often get confused. If we have the data, we're smart enough to figure things out. I've always found that I'm more confused when I'm not given the right information. I like transparency.

[goodheathen]

Originally Posted by TheseGoTo11

Ok, this is funny. "Don't get in trouble" with you???? Ooooh, so scared.

I've gotten PMs from multiple posters about you and not sure why you don't do more research to back up your points rather than come up with these childish threats. No one is "gone", you seem to have some issue with wanting to ban people, and the irony is I doubt no one has been reported more on this board than you.

Your doubt is wrong. The person reported most was banned long ago.

You make nonsensical points not supported by data and then argue about it, akin to challenging me to disprove the supernatural. You're a waste of time. It's been a major dismay seeing member after member in effect working against the spirit that would end the pandemic.

[TheseGoTo11]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

Your doubt is wrong. The person reported most was banned long ago.

You make nonsensical points not supported by data and then argue about it, akin to challenging me to disprove the supernatural. You're a waste of time. It's been a major dismay seeing member after member in effect working against the spirit that would end the pandemic.

No one has been banned because of you, we're all DMing each other and reporting you!

So looking at your post, I see exactly zero facts, zero data, and more nonsense.

To get the discussion back on track. California has 9% unemployment, Florida 4.8%. California's death rate is virtually the same, and is actually lower if you adjust for their larger per capita over 65 population. This suggests to me the lockdowns weren't very effective and came at a high price. Adding to this is the fact that Democrats in the State Senate are now pressuring Newsolini to release public health data he's trying to conceal, suggesting he knows his policy was a big mistake and was ineffective.

Would love anyone to respond to this, but please bring facts or data to the discussion. Actually, please just bring back the discussion! Any further attempts to play fake mod will get more reports to the real mods.

[JGC97]

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