What's Happened to California??? (San Diego, San Luis Obispo: purchases, minimum wage, stores)

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by californio sur

It's hard to believe how terrified some people are! I think they watch too many bogey man movies!

[AwayAndBackToSac]

Originally Posted by californio sur

It's hard to believe how terrified some people are! I think they watch too many bogey man movies!

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Whatever you say... Your definitely right.

Look, the poster asked for a response. The civil thing to do is at least respond to him, not try, in any manner, to deride another...

[seain dublin]

Originally Posted by kstorts

The population will definitely continue to increase...but it is a lot of the CA natives that are leaving, and a lot of people from other countries coming in...CA is the melting pot, anyone can be here and be accepted an fit in. While more and more diverse peoples come, they bring their cultures, etc. with them, and that changes the areas they live in when you have alrge crowds of them. It isn't a bad thing- it is just how it is. I for one cannot wait to get out of Cali, there are several things i do not like about this state. It is funny to go to some of these other forums on here, you can see that many of the natives from the other states complain about Californians taking over the other areas just as the other people are taking over California.

Having lived in CA for over 20 years(now on the East Coast) and recently went back there to visit. You can help but notice that being white and American born you're in the minority.

We went to the Beverly Center to shop(something we did on a regular basis throughout the 90s) and were the only white people we saw.

Most people seemed to be foreign born. Not saying it felt unsafe, just very strange. It wasn't that way 10 yrs ago.

This isn't meant to be racist, I am just stating what we saw. Also went to the new shopping plaza in Glendale( which for a long time has had a large Armenian population) and it was the same thing.

There has been a major population shift in the greater LA area. You really notice when you move out of the area and go back to visit.

[R66]

Originally Posted by seain dublin

You can help but notice that being white and American born you're in the minority. We went to the Beverly Center to shop (something we did on a regular basis throughout the 90s) and were the only white people we saw. Most people seemed to be foreign born. Not saying it felt unsafe, just very strange. It wasn't that way 10 yrs ago. This isn't meant to be racist, I am just stating what we saw. Also went to the new shopping plaza in Glendale (which for a long time has had a large Armenian population) and it was the same thing. There has been a major population shift in the greater LA area. You really notice when you move out of the area and go back to visit.

My sentiments exactly .... I moved out to LA from Florida in 1988 to jump start my career in Film and stayed to 1996. I lived mostly in SF Valley minus a few hard nights in my beat up VW in the Hollywood hills ... lately I am seeing a lot of rich Persians from Iran speaking loud Persian at every corner. The Mexicans were always here but Van Nuys now seems worst than ever. The only clear English 100% Americans I see are in Calabasas. I recently drove back to SoCal for a first visit since my departure in 1996 to pass time and visit with old friends. The weather is excellent like a carbon copy of Florida just less humidity and no rain. Services are good and people here seem more motivated and have a zest for life ... or maybe they are motivated by the US Dollar. However, people here are spoiled ( obscene in your face wealth ) and I see a complete lack of sympathy for the suffering mainly from Entertainment Folks of Jewish decent.

[AwayAndBackToSac]

Originally Posted by R66

My sentiments exactly .... I moved out to LA from Florida in 1988 to jump start my career in Film and stayed to 1996. I lived mostly in SF Valley minus a few hard nights in my beat up VW in the Hollywood hills ... lately I am seeing a lot of rich Persians from Iran speaking loud Persian at every corner. The Mexicans were always here but Van Nuys now seems worst than ever. The only clear English 100% Americans I see are in Calabasas. I recently drove back to SoCal for a first visit since my departure in 1996 to pass time and visit with old friends. The weather is excellent like a carbon copy of Florida just less humidity and no rain. Services are good and people here seem more motivated and have a zest for life ... or maybe they are motivated by the US Dollar. However, people here are spoiled ( obscene in your face wealth ) and I see a complete lack of sympathy for the suffering mainly from Entertainment Folks of Jewish decent.

While I disagree with many of your observations, the following data (unknown validity) does make one think...


By 1970 immigrants accounted for 4.7 percent of the US population and rising to 6.2 percent in 1980, with an estimated 12.5 percent to this date.[42] As of 2010, a quarter of the residents of the United States under 18 are immigrants or are immigrants' children.[43]
Legal immigration to the U.S. increased from 250,000 in the 1930s, to 2.5 million in the 1950s, to 4.5 million in the 1970s, and to 7.3 million in the 1980s, before resting at about 10 million in the 1990s.[44] Since 2000, legal immigrants to the United States number approximately 1,000,000 per year, of whom about 600,000 are Change of Status who already are in the U.S. Legal immigrants to the United States now are at their highest level ever, at just over 37,000,000 legal immigrants. Illegal immigration may be as high as 1,500,000 per year with a net of at least 700,000 illegal immigrants arriving every year.[45][46] Immigration led to a 57.4% increase in foreign born population from 1990 to 2000.[47]


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Please note, I am in no way Xenophobic, but I wonder how healthy it was to increase LEGAL immigration so very fast.

[seain dublin]

Originally Posted by R66

My sentiments exactly .... I moved out to LA from Florida in 1988 to jump start my career in Film and stayed to 1996. I lived mostly in SF Valley minus a few hard nights in my beat up VW in the Hollywood hills ... lately I am seeing a lot of rich Persians from Iran speaking loud Persian at every corner. The Mexicans were always here but Van Nuys now seems worst than ever. The only clear English 100% Americans I see are in Calabasas. I recently drove back to SoCal for a first visit since my departure in 1996 to pass time and visit with old friends. The weather is excellent like a carbon copy of Florida just less humidity and no rain. Services are good and people here seem more motivated and have a zest for life ... or maybe they are motivated by the US Dollar. However, people here are spoiled ( obscene in your face wealth ) and I see a complete lack of sympathy for the suffering mainly from Entertainment Folks of Jewish decent.

Agreed. Even in Montrose( a nice little community north of Glendale) was like being in a foreign country compared to what it used to be. And I am going to say it since you mentioned the Iranians, they have no manners.

My elderly aunt still lives in Montrose and she has become quite the bigot....LOL...only because of interactions she has had in the last couple of years with certain groups.

You get people from eastern Europe and the Middle East and they have a different mindset in how to act in public. And it isn't good.

But the Beverly Center was a real eye opener, I felt like I had left the US.

[seain dublin]

Originally Posted by AwayAndBackToSac

While I disagree with many of your observations, the following data (unknown validity) does make one think...


By 1970 immigrants accounted for 4.7 percent of the US population and rising to 6.2 percent in 1980, with an estimated 12.5 percent to this date.[42] As of 2010, a quarter of the residents of the United States under 18 are immigrants or are immigrants' children.[43]
Legal immigration to the U.S. increased from 250,000 in the 1930s, to 2.5 million in the 1950s, to 4.5 million in the 1970s, and to 7.3 million in the 1980s, before resting at about 10 million in the 1990s.[44] Since 2000, legal immigrants to the United States number approximately 1,000,000 per year, of whom about 600,000 are Change of Status who already are in the U.S. Legal immigrants to the United States now are at their highest level ever, at just over 37,000,000 legal immigrants. Illegal immigration may be as high as 1,500,000 per year with a net of at least 700,000 illegal immigrants arriving every year.[45][46] Immigration led to a 57.4% increase in foreign born population from 1990 to 2000.[47]


Immigration to the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Please note, I am in no way Xenophobic, but I wonder how healthy it was to increase LEGAL immigration so very fast.

You're not being xenophobic, there is something wrong when you feel out of place in your own country.

We make it too easy in this country to take up residence. Try doing that in Australia.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by R66

The only clear English 100% Americans I see are in Calabasas. .

Wow, I was going to comment on how out of place I feel when I visit Calabasas. I swim often at and take our kids to the Calabasas Tennis and Swim Center and my parents live in Calabasas. There are a lot of middle eastern people there - my wife thinks Israeli - but could be others. Every now and then I sense there's one person other than myself who grew up in Southern California. A lot of people from the east coast and overseas seem to be there.

[blauskies]

Originally Posted by R66

My sentiments exactly .... I moved out to LA from Florida in 1988 to jump start my career in Film and stayed to 1996. I lived mostly in SF Valley minus a few hard nights in my beat up VW in the Hollywood hills ... lately I am seeing a lot of rich Persians from Iran speaking loud Persian at every corner. The Mexicans were always here but Van Nuys now seems worst than ever. The only clear English 100% Americans I see are in Calabasas. I recently drove back to SoCal for a first visit since my departure in 1996 to pass time and visit with old friends. The weather is excellent like a carbon copy of Florida just less humidity and no rain. Services are good and people here seem more motivated and have a zest for life ... or maybe they are motivated by the US Dollar. However, people here are spoiled ( obscene in your face wealth ) and I see a complete lack of sympathy for the suffering mainly from Entertainment Folks of Jewish decent.

South Florida is not much different though, it's the league of nations here. Several places I worked over the years here from small companies to large companies, there was a mix of nationalities. One place was a small office around 10 people, only two of the employees (including myself) were born in the USA. The rest were H-1B and Green Card holders of varying nationalities.

[ladysovereign]

Originally Posted by Highnlite

I don't know any depressed angry frustrated people, but then again, I don't live south of the grapevine and I don't know why anyone would, but that is just me.

For jobs most likely. Living in the middle of nowhere is only possible if your able to be successfully self-employed.