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The only people better off in the USA than Canada are people in the top 1/3 of income and are very driven by material status.
I don't agree, I would say the 2/3rds majority are better off, and the 1/3 not. Being poor here sucks. (1/3) But there is a huge middle class that enjoys a great QOL. (2/3) Then there's the upper middle/upper class. (3)
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They can afford any medical procedure
You don't have to be rich to afford excellent healthcare here. You just need decent insurance. I'll keep it short but our medical is $230/month with a low deductible, prescriptions no more than $10, it costs me $12-$20 for a doctor's visit. No referrals needed for specialists and zero cap on amount. I mentioned my DH who is about to be promoted to a literal executive, the $12 hourly employees at his company are offered the exact same plan we are. DH just gets a generous HSA paid for, so we literally pay about nothing for superb, excellent insurance except for a lousy couple hundred bucks a month.
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and afford to live outside high crime neighborhoods. With lower taxes they keep more of their money and choose when and where they give it to charity. They can work as many hours as they want, even if it destroys their family and health.
You don't have to be well off to live in a decent area, generally speaking. I'm not talking about NYC here.
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For the other 2/3rds they are much better off in Canada (or Australia, New Zealand, Japan, W Europe). No matter their income or employment status they will always have health care and basic housing. You can live in the poorest neighborhood and not worry about high levels of gun violence or being surrounded by urban blight. Public transit is much better. No one will force you to work 10 to 15 hours of overtime each week.
The poor here get healthcare and basic housing for free. And most Americans aren't really cool with that because so many people abuse the system. Lots of frauds and scumbags in this country. I am happy that my tax dollars go to the single mother who lost her job and needs unemployment or food stamps to feed her kid, but not to go to welfare to some woman walking around with a new Michael Kors purse. (Stuff like that happens ALL THE TIME here.)
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The USA is a land of extremes. There is nothing as vibrant in Canada as America's Silicon Valley but there's also no places in Canada as awful as Detroit or southern Appalachia.
Southern Appalachia isn't awful unless you're talking about the mountain people not in civilization, like in Deliverance with outhouses and no running water, etc.
Lots of pretty desirable cities otherwise. Here, I'm 5 minutes from my boat. There are so many lakes in this region that the major boat headquarters (Sea Ray, Mastercraft, Bayliner) are located around or in Knoxville. It takes 35 minutes to get to the Smokey Mountains. In the winter the high is about 40ish and the low around freezing, so winter is nothing more than an annoyance. Beautiful, beautiful country here. There are also places like Asheville, Chattanooga, Winston-Salem, among a few others that are nice areas as well.
Detroit I agree with you is awful, but there is a "Beverly Hills" area outside of it called Bloomfield Hills. You would have to be affluent to afford that, I will say.
Climate, climate, climate. I love Canada in the spring, summer and fall. Unfortunately those 6 months of cold/cool weather are a big turnoff. Its a beautiful country and takes great care of its citizens. My dad was born there
Hey, don't you live in Buffalo? So your climate is quite similar to that which is experienced by the majority of Canadians.
I visit Canada often.... most Canadians (from Ontario) are indistinguishable from most Americans. The western provinces (and Labrador) tend to more rural/earthy/outdoorsy. I go there often and no one knows I'm American until I speak and say "y'all".
Quebec... well a whole 'nother story. Don't know anything about the maritime provinces.
Hahaha, same here. Once I say "cawfee", "tawk", or "a'ready", they look at me a little funny. On the other hand, the lady I always see at the LCBO was surprised to find out I was from Jersey because I "didn't sound like it". I guess they were expecting the fake Jersey accent you hear in mob movies and stupid TV shows.
But to the topic, on my tenth visit over, they asked me to speak to the nice immigration lady. Apparently they were interested in why I was coming over the border so frequently, and she said that there are EIGHT THOUSAND Americans per month applying to move to Canada.
Are there 8000 Canadians a month applying to move to the USA?
She said the rush of applicants is straining their resources, and they were concerned about people coming into Canada as visitors and just not leaving. They seemed happy once I demonstrated that I have a solid income, health insurance, and a home and family in the USA and had no reason to sneak into the country to take anything from Canadians. As a matter of fact, I spend money there!
Hahaha, same here. Once I say "cawfee", "tawk", or "a'ready", they look at me a little funny. On the other hand, the lady I always see at the LCBO was surprised to find out I was from Jersey because I "didn't sound like it". I guess they were expecting the fake Jersey accent you hear in mob movies and stupid TV shows.
But to the topic, on my tenth visit over, they asked me to speak to the nice immigration lady. Apparently they were interested in why I was coming over the border so frequently, and she said that there are EIGHT THOUSAND Americans per month applying to move to Canada.
Are there 8000 Canadians a month applying to move to the USA?
She said the rush of applicants is straining their resources, and they were concerned about people coming into Canada as visitors and just not leaving. They seemed happy once I demonstrated that I have a solid income, health insurance, and a home and family in the USA and had no reason to sneak into the country to take anything from Canadians. As a matter of fact, I spend money there!
That still seems like a drop in the bucket when you consider there are 330 million Americans.
I have no idea how many Canadians apply to live in the U.S. but in terms of people actually there are about 3% of all Canadian citizens in the entire world are living in the U.S.
Relative to population, Canadians moving to the U.S. are a much bigger thing than Americans moving to Canada.
If I didn't live in America, I'd prefer to live in Canada. I've been to the UK 4x, and Western/Central Europe 4x - I would not want to live in Europe at all, especially with those Middle Eastern male refugees all over the place. They make me feel very uncomfortable with how they stare at you. And I am not into Islamic culture.
That still seems like a drop in the bucket when you consider there are 330 million Americans.
I have no idea how many Canadians apply to live in the U.S. but in terms of people actually there are about 3% of all Canadian citizens in the entire world are living in the U.S.
Relative to population, Canadians moving to the U.S. are a much bigger thing than Americans moving to Canada.
Oh yeah, that goes without saying, but the actual number surprises people here who can't imagine anyone wanting to leave the US. Or who think all of Canada is frozen year-round.
Percentage-wise, of course they can't compare. All of Canada has only four times the number of people in my state, one of the smallest in area but with the highest population density.
Statistics show that while a growing number of Americans say they’d move up north, there has only been a “modest uptick” in those who have actually moved.
Over 2017 and the first quarter of 2018, 1,055 more Americans were granted permanent residency than the average number during the Obama administration. Student visas granted to U.S. citizens increased by 1,012 in 2017, compared to the average number over the eight years before that.
Statistics show that while a growing number of Americans say they’d move up north, there has only been a “modest uptick” in those who have actually moved.
Over 2017 and the first quarter of 2018, 1,055 more Americans were granted permanent residency than the average number during the Obama administration. Student visas granted to U.S. citizens increased by 1,012 in 2017, compared to the average number over the eight years before that.
Hardly a mass exodus overtaking Canada!
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