Multiracial people in Quebec

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by BIMBAM

I think you guys are maybe being a bit too tongue and cheek on this. What matters is if how someone looks and their heritage can effect how they are treated, perceived, and thought of. People who look like Meaghan Markle are "racialized" in many contexts in ways that matter to their lives. I can see how being called Black isn't a huge stretch given that sociological context (although obviously she is an uber privileged, very light skinned edge case)

I suppose.

Though as you know probably close to half of Québécois French Canadian people have skin tone fairly similar to hers.

My wife and one my kids certainly do.

[BIMBAM]

Originally Posted by Acajack

I suppose.

Though as you know probably close to half of Québécois French Canadian people have skin tone fairly similar to hers.

My wife and one my kids certainly do.

Sure, but that puts them in the range of the local "normal" and doesn't necessarily place them in a social category outside of the mainstream that they have no control of. They're from the majority gene pool, which as normal includes a bit of amerindian DNA but those traits don't mark them as being of a different ethnic group, they visibly would I imagine just look within the range of what people perceive as ethnic French Canadians. Two people can look the same, but have very different experiences of race depending on their local context, the social implications of that appearance.

[Zoisite]

Originally Posted by ben young

BLM is the racial go to, for all things Black, and they say she is.. THE FINIAL WORD..

Finial? So are you saying she's like an ornamental hip-knob sticking up from the peak of a roof? LOL. What a thought.

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[Acajack]

Originally Posted by BIMBAM

Sure, but that puts them in the range of the local "normal" and doesn't necessarily place them in a social category outside of the mainstream that they have no control of. They're from the majority gene pool, which as normal includes a bit of amerindian DNA but those traits don't mark them as being of a different ethnic group, they visibly would I imagine just look within the range of what people perceive as ethnic French Canadians. Two people can look the same, but have very different experiences of race depending on their local context, the social implications of that appearance.

Yes, of course.

Who is "white" (or not) differs from place to place I suppose.

In Quebec the darkest skin tone generally considered as "white" is probably slightly darker than it is in the US.

Though the US racial obsession and parameters often appear quite absurd to me, with the "one drop" rule and all.

For example this guy if I knew nothing about him I would consider him to be an very fair-skinned person with African origins.

Similar to very light skinned Afro-Caribbean people like Dominique Anglade or Régine Chassagne from Arcade Fire.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ouat...w=1280&bih=578

But in fact, this dude has no African origins whatsoever.

As I said, racial politics can be absurd and non-sensical.

If I were pressed to pick who had the most African DNA between him and Markle, based on appearance only, I'd pick him.

Lots of Americans of Mediterranean origins (generally with no sub-Saharan African admixture) look like Markle in my experience.

[ben young]

Originally Posted by Zoisite

Finial? So are you saying she's like an ornamental hip-knob sticking up from the peak of a roof? LOL. What a thought.

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lol yes