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Old 07-10-2021, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Canada
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One of the nephews who attended a private Catholic school was told he was going to hell by a nun because he missed some religious service- mass, maybe? There were religious services non-Catholics attended but there were also some services non-Catholics didn't have to attend and apparently the nun didn't realise my nephew fell into the latter group.

To me that sounds like a pretty religious school. I know my sister checked it out thoroughly as she didn't mind religion being taught, but wanted nothing specifically Catholic.

And here's another funny - my half Jewish niece is attending a private Mennonite school and at her tender age, has a very sound Mennonite theology with which she regales her mother and step-father, both of whom are only ethnically Mennonite.
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Old 07-10-2021, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN -
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What intemperate outbursts?

That's a very Catholic thing - feeling guilty for something you didn't even do!
He knows what he did.
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Old 07-10-2021, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Canada was not alone in this effort to erase the native language and culture.

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WASHINGTON — The American Indian children travelled on trains, thousands of miles from their homes in Kansas and elsewhere, to Pennsylvania’s Carlisle Indian Industrial School in the late 1800s and early 1900s. Many had been forcibly taken from their parents and communities.

Once there, they had to hand over their belongings, put on uniforms, cut off their braids, adopt new names and abandon their languages and cultural practices.

Under teachers in charge of assimilation, the children studied English and memorized the U.S. presidents. The rest of the time, they worked on the school grounds or on assignments in neighboring towns
https://kansasreflector.com/2021/07/...rding-schools/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...Indian_schools
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Old 07-21-2021, 12:03 AM
 
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There’s been a demand for Pope Francis to visit Canada and apologize for the maltreatment of indigenous children in residential schools. While churches bore much responsibility for the problems, it seems the government is trying to deflect blame from itself since it gave the churches the responsibility of running those schools. Has anyone wondered what some of Canada’s beloved politicians of the past knew and when they knew it? Since the Catholic Church is in a weak position in Canada, what’s stopping the pols who are beating their breasts in shock and anger from bleeding the Church dry?
Government trying to deflect some blame to take the heat off themselves?
Yes.
Considering John A. MacDonald's parliamentary comments about purposely starving the Indians, I'd place my bets that Canada’s beloved politicians of the past not only knew, they planned it.
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...igenous-people

Question.
Suesbal, you said, "what’s stopping the pols who are beating their breasts in shock and anger from bleeding the Church dry?"
What does 'pols' mean?

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Residential schools were government-sponsored schools run by churches.

The Roman Catholic Church operated three-fifths of the schools, the Anglican Church one-quarter and the United and Presbyterian Churches the remainder. (Before 1925, the Methodist Church also operated residential schools; however, when the United Church of Canada was formed in 1925, most of the Presbyterian and all the Methodist schools became United Church schools.)

Until the late 1950s, residential schools operated on a half-day system, in which students spent half the day in the classroom and the other at work. The theory behind this was that students would learn skills that would allow them to earn a living as adults. However, the reality was that work had more to do with running the school inexpensively than with providing students with vocational training.

Tasks were separated by gender. Girls were responsible for housekeeping (cooking, cleaning, laundry, sewing), while boys were involved in carpentry, construction, general maintenance and agricultural labour. Funding was a pressing concern in the residential school system. From the 1890s until the 1950s, the government tried constantly to shift the burden of the system onto the churches and onto the students, whose labour contributed financially to the schools. By the 1940s, it was clear to many that the half-day system had failed to provide residential students with adequate education and training. However, the half-day system was not eliminated until the late 1950s, when more funding became available owing to a strong economy.

Although medical experts such as Dr. Peter Bryce, Dr. James Lafferty, Dr. O.I. Grain and Dr. E.L. Stone recommended measures to improve health and medical treatment, these were not implemented by the government, largely due to concerns about cost and opposition by the churches.

By the 1940s it was obvious to both the government and most missionary bodies that the schools were ineffective, and Indigenous protests helped to secure a change in policy. In 1969, the system was taken over by the Department of Indian Affairs, ending church involvement. The government decided to phase out the schools, but this met with resistance from the Catholic Church, which felt that segregated education was the best approach for Indigenous children. Some Indigenous communities also resisted closure of the schools, arguing either that denominational schools should remain open or that the schools should be transferred to their own control. By 1986, most schools had either been closed or turned over to local bands. Ten years later, Gordon Residential School in Punnichy, Saskatchewan, finally closed its doors.

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia....ential-schools
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Old 07-29-2021, 08:04 AM
 
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Oh boy, now comes this revelation to further spotlight the Catholic Church:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...ZNN?li=AAggNb9
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Old 07-29-2021, 08:27 AM
 
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Catholics sin. Copts pay a price.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...fire-1.6108048
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Old 07-29-2021, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Canada
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This is disgusting https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...ools-1.6121886
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Old 07-29-2021, 12:21 PM
 
Location: ottawa, ontario, canada
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awful thing to say, he should be kicked out of the Church
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Old 07-29-2021, 01:18 PM
 
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awful thing to say, he should be kicked out of the Church
Where do they put all of these miscreants when they are no longer suitable for public service?

Do they assume some clerical positions in the Vatican? Boy, that place is going to have an occupancy/bedding crisis if this keeps up. They'll have to resort to double bunking.

My bad........
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Old 07-29-2021, 01:34 PM
 
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awful thing to say, he should be kicked out of the Church
He’s in Rheal trouble.
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