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I'm not particularly interested in corporate America. It is what it is.
I've watched things erode over the years, not because of corporations breaking the law (They do it sometimes, but it isn't an epidemic.), but because the laws allow it.
I'm much more concerned with governments that are non-functional. There is a lack of jobs. It's known that companies are sitting on money & not hiring. This happened in the 70s & people who were unemployed couldn't get hired until the feds passed a law that gave them a tax credit for hiring the unemployed. Now the president has offered a similar plan. Why didn't he say that this has worked in the past? Why are the Republicans sitting around with their thumbs up the a$$es?
It's not corporate America as a whole & it's not unions as a whole. Yes, there are examples of bad corporations & bad union locals, but they are not bad as a whole. The problem is with legislators with agendas on the extreme right & extreme left.
Add in individuals whose personal greed helped to cause the current mess.
Absolutely. I think you probably speak for the majority of folks out there.
I think both parties are worthless right now, lol.
Oh. Someone who fits right in, then, lol - since my opinion is that most of them are too arrogant to come up with solutions that see beyond their own district or personal gain.
People are so blind to see that this ALL is about the money. The people who run wallstreet also are the ones running corporate america and all levels of government. It is not as simple as people want to portray it to be.
The average citizen is not "corporate america"' this is hogwash. When 2% of the population of this country holds 80% percent of the money in this country there is something terribly, terribly wrong and
people are so blind as to see it.
I hope you all enjoy being a serf for the feudal government as that is where we are quickly headed.
People are so blind to see that this ALL is about the money. The people who run wallstreet also are the ones running corporate america and all levels of government. It is not as simple as people want to portray it to be.
The average citizen is not "corporate america"' this is hogwash. When 2% of the population of this country holds 80% percent of the money in this country there is something terribly, terribly wrong and
people are so blind as to see it.
I hope you all enjoy being a serf for the feudal government as that is where we are quickly headed.
Kitty, altho you are right - it is all about the money - you are very very wrong when you say the average guy on the street is not "wall street." You are totally missing the point and therefore, wasting your effort cause you are jousting at the wrong target!
If you have a 401K, TSA, IRA, mutual funds, bonds . . . you ARE part of Wall Street. If you have a pension, you ARE part of Wall Street! And the growth of that investment is dependent on Wall Street!
And as far as this BS about "rich folks" . . . they ARE paying the bulk of taxes already! I don't care if you tax them some more! FINE WITH ME! But it isn't as tho they are not paying the bulk of taxes already - WITH MY POINT BEING . . . if it isn't enuff to cover all the gubment expenditures out there NOW - why on this god's green earth would you and others be incapable of seeing that taxing them even 50% more isn't gonna solve our deficit problems????? Taxing the "rich" (a misnomer for folks making $250K/year) . . . is not gonna raise TRILLIONS of dollars! Work it out on paper! But don't let me try to inject some reality into this discussion.
TAX 'EM! TAX 'EM at 90%!!! Seize their assets! See where it gets us all! IT IS NOT SOLUTION, but if it makes you feel like you have gotten back at the world for screwing you financially - DO IT!
Does this mean that everyone who pays taxes approves of the job Washington is doing? This photo suggest the same thing... I guess if you are alive and breathing you approve of every tax, law, vote, budget etc that passes since you are functioning within our society.
How can one oppose Tarp or Government mismanagement of funds, laws, job losses, taxes if they still live in America?
Specious point. One is forced by LAW to pay taxes, whether you agree with what is done with it or not. You, however, have a choice of products to purchase.
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Originally Posted by Chromekitty
People are so blind to see that this ALL is about the money. The people who run wallstreet also are the ones running corporate america and all levels of government. It is not as simple as people want to portray it to be.
Actually your thoughts on what you believe to be going on is the point of view that is overly simplistic.
Where have I said " any of this is about the deficit." Or that I have mentioned the deficit is what they are protesting at all?
Where have I said " I have been financially screwed and I want to get back at anyone?"
Where have I said anything about attending these protests? Or joustingwith anyone?
You haven't, (you are putting words in my mouth) you are totally off base here and obviously are missing the entire point of the whole protest to begin with.
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Originally Posted by anifani821
Kitty, altho you are right - it is all about the money - you are very very wrong when you say the average guy on the street is not "wall street." You are totally missing the point and therefore, wasting your effort cause you are jousting at the wrong target!
If you have a 401K, TSA, IRA, mutual funds, bonds . . . you ARE part of Wall Street. If you have a pension, you ARE part of Wall Street! And the growth of that investment is dependent on Wall Street!
And as far as this BS about "rich folks" . . . they ARE paying the bulk of taxes already! I don't care if you tax them some more! FINE WITH ME! But it isn't as tho they are not paying the bulk of taxes already - WITH MY POINT BEING . . . if it isn't enuff to cover all the gubment expenditures out there NOW - why on this god's green earth would you and others be incapable of seeing that taxing them even 50% more isn't gonna solve our deficit problems????? Taxing the "rich" (a misnomer for folks making $250K/year) . . . is not gonna raise TRILLIONS of dollars! Work it out on paper! But don't let me try to inject some reality into this discussion.
TAX 'EM! TAX 'EM at 90%!!! Seize their assets! See where it gets us all! IT IS NOT SOLUTION, but if it makes you feel like you have gotten back at the world for screwing you financially - DO IT!
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Specious point. One is forced by LAW to pay taxes, whether you agree with what is done with it or not. You, however, have a choice of products to purchase.
Actually your thoughts on what you believe to be going on is the point of view that is overly simplistic.
It is not about what I believe to be going on, it is what IS going on. Read and learn some history of this country and those who have been a major part. All of it is far from being simplistic.
CK, I'm really confused about what people like yourself specifically want to happen to big corporations...?
Are you advocating breaking them up? More government regulations?
If so, which companies? What are the guidelines??? Will it be mandatory or voluntary to follow?
I'm not being sarcastic, I just want to understand the specifics on what you want done and how you think it will benefit society
What makes you ask that? I haven't even gone down that road. What I have said is when the balance of who holds the money in this country is what it is, there is a huge problem. Huge. There is a huge imbalance in this country.
There is no huge corporate overhaul in my posts. There are many people in this country who have been lead down paths of ruin all in the name of greed. it is sad and disgusting.
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