The worst area that YOU been to in Chicago? (Blue Island: homes, live)

[Lorielicious]

Originally Posted by urza216

Well, the other stuff in my post wasn't entirely accurate, was it? You did specify who you were and what you were talkin about - the OP.

And yes, it is frightening if you have common sense. When they start shooing ewch other, it's best to not be in the immediate vicinity. It's best to not have your name associated with them when the cops get involved. I grew up with guys like that and they're not the best people to hang around, either way. They were same guys who sat in the back of the class and picked fights with people and thought it was cool to be ignorant. I try my best to surround myself with open minded people who intellectually stimaute me. Not thugs who hang out on street corners.

:sigh: Accurate? Your post didn't contain any actual information. You basically said to me, "Hey Sarcasmo, why don't you try walking through the crowd of gentlemen lollygagging in front of the liquor store and see what happens," to which I responded, "I have, and nothing happens." And then you went and changed it to something slightly less asinine.

Oh, and good for you, hobnobbing with the intelligentsia. If I ever hang out with you, I'll be sure to don my finest monocle. In any event, who you hang out with is irrelevant to the point, which is it's hilariously paranoid to be shivering in your Hush Puppies because you saw some people outside of Burger King around Chicago and Pulaski.

Edit: And we're done here. I'm too lazy to update my posts to reflect every time you change your mind about what you want to say. I'm late for my afternoon cocktails as it is. Cheers.

[urza216]

Originally Posted by Lorielicious

:sigh: Accurate? Your post didn't contain any actual information. You basically said to me, "Hey Sarcasmo, why don't you try walking through the crowd of gentlemen lollygagging in front of the liquor store and see what happens," to which I responded, "I have, and nothing happens." And then you went and changed it to something slightly less asinine.

Oh, and good for you, hobnobbing with the intelligentsia. If I ever hang out with you, I'll be sure to don my finest monocle. In any event, who you hang out with is irrelevant to the point, which is it's hilariously paranoid to be shivering in your Hush Puppies because you saw some people outside of Burger King around Chicago and Pulaski.

Edit: And we're done here. I'm too lazy to update my posts to reflect every time you change your mind about what you want to say. I'm late for my afternoon cocktails as it is. Cheers.

You are confusing me with someone very different than me. I just take issue with your nonchalant attitude about guys who "stand around" in the hood.

EDIT: Have fun. I will be working (in Gary, Indiana) till 4 and can't really afford anything along the lines of cocktails for the rest of this pay period.

[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by urza216

....I also think it's very possible to pass through an area and instantly recognize it as high crime.

No it's not, unless you actually witness a lot of crime happening. Otherwise you're just witnessing things you personally associate with crime, which brings us to:

Originally Posted by urza216

If young males are standing around on street corners and/or in front of liquor stores, it's not a place you want to be.

What are they going to do? Try to sell you drugs? Proposition you? Saying "no thanks" or ignoring them and walking away tends to solve that pretty easily. They likely won't even do that much. They have their own lives that don't have much to do with yours.

[urza216]

Originally Posted by ChiNaan

No it's not, unless you actually witness a lot of crime happening. Otherwise you're just witnessing things you personally associate with crime, which brings us to:



What are they going to do? Try to sell you drugs? Proposition you? Saying "no thanks" or ignoring them and walking away tends to solve that pretty easily. They likely won't even do that much. They have their own lives that don't have much to do with yours.

If you can stand around on a street corner or in front of a liquor store for hours and hours on end, you don't have much of a life.

What they're trying to do is show what big balls they have and how much they straight up run this place, b. This is also why they take forever to walk back to the sidewalk when you are trying to pass through and they're hangin out in the middle of the road. Because this is THEIR street and you must have thier permission to drive through. They are giving you permission to enter the liquor store as well.

If a neighorhood has tons of liquor stores and groups of guys who spend thier days hanging around in front of them, it IS a high crime area.

You are naive.

[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by urza216

If you can stand around on a street corner or in front of a liquor store for hours and hours on end, you don't have much of a life.

I have a feeling some of them might say the same thing about people who post on internet message boards for hours and hours on end.

Originally Posted by urza216

What they're trying to do is show what big balls they have and how much they straight up run this place, b. This is also why they take forever to walk back to the sidewalk when you are trying to pass through and they're hangin out in the middle of the road. Because this is THEIR street and you must have thier permission to drive through. They are giving you permission to enter the liquor store as well.

You're telling us a lot more about yourself with this statement than you are telling us about people who stand in front of liquor stores.

Originally Posted by urza216

If a neighorhood has tons of liquor stores and groups of guys who spend thier days hanging around in front of them, it IS a high crime area.

No, if a neighborhood has tons of liquor stores it's a high liquor store area. If a neighborhood has tons of crime, it is a high crime area. I would guess that the two have a relatively high rate of correlation, but it's not a perfect 1.00 correlation, as very few things are, therefore you cannot assume one by knowing the other.

Originally Posted by urza216

You are naive.

Nah, I'm just not paranoid. There's a difference. I'm also intellectually curious and question the assumptions I'm fed. Try it sometime. You might learn something. I've spent a fair amount of time in Gary, believe it or not, and I can't imagine they take too kindly to the attitude you've shown in this thread, if you're unwise enough to share it there.

[urza216]

Btw - I'm not entirely sure where Chicago and Pulaski is. I know exactly where 167th and Pulaski is though.. There's a Mcdonalds over there but no Burger King.

There is nothing wrong with hanging in front of a Burgar King, in and of itself. But if you are still there 4 hours later, I call that being a hoodrat.

[Lorielicious]

Originally Posted by ChiNaan

What are they going to do? Try to sell you drugs? Proposition you? Saying "no thanks" or ignoring them and walking away tends to solve that pretty easily. They likely won't even do that much. They have their own lives that don't have much to do with yours.

Right, if you walk by a liquor store with a bunch of dudes hanging out, they're not even going to say anything to you at all. They're just going to continue whatever it is they were doing before you showed up. Even if, as urza believes, they said to you, "Whatch you need, bro, whatch you need?" (which they in all probablity wouldn't) the answer is "Nah, I'm straight," and we're done. Some people watch too many movies. If every time anyone walked by a place with dudes hanging around something happened, no one would be able to get on with their life, because something would be happening all of the time.

[urza216]

Originally Posted by Lorielicious

Right, if you walk by a liquor store with a bunch of dudes hanging out, they're not even going to say anything to you at all. They're just going to continue whatever it is they were doing before you showed up. Even if, as urza believes, they said to you, "Whatch you need, bro, whatch you need?" (which they in all probablity wouldn't) the answer is "Nah, I'm straight," and we're done. Some people watch too many movies. If every time anyone walked by a place with dudes hanging around something happened, no one would be able to get on with their life, because something would be happening all of the time.

Well, I am a writer so I like to use colorful language like a movie.

I was referring to if you approached them and started talking to them. They would assume that you want something.

It's not so much that something WILL happen but there's a much higher probability that something will happen. I guess I don't really walk this talk though. I love Big Boys in Chicago Heights and there are some shady charaters there, sometimes. But I don't patronize liquor stores like this.

The bottom line is that "standing around" is not okay.

My best friend was stabbed to death while selling drugs shortly after high school. I survived (unlike my friend) and moved on with my life. No one came for me or anything like that, no.

[Just1Fan]

Originally Posted by urza216

There is nothing wrong with hanging in front of a Burgar King, in and of itself. But if you are still there 4 hours later, I call that being a hoodrat.

Either that, or some other "h" words, e.g. hungry, homeless, or hooker.

[ChiNaan]

Originally Posted by urza216

I was referring to if you approached them and started talking to them. They would assume that you want something.

You mean kind of like anyone would if a stranger approached them on the street to talk to them? Okay.