Racism in Chicago: Give examples. (Calumet City, Reynolds: trendy, eat, gas)

[mjtinmemphis]

Originally Posted by Atlanta_BD

It's not just a Chicago thing though. I've also been called a stupid n****r here in Atlanta.

Not in the Black Mecca? You know the city too busy to hate???

Originally Posted by Atlanta_BD

Here in the south, it's more of that what I call bless-your-heart kind of racism. Whites are more comfortable here with you as a black person long as you are "in your place" (i.e. uneducated or blue collar and stereotypical). But if your are educated, well-spoken, put together or if you have a decent (or non-service) job, they have a problem with you. They also blatantly discriminate here when it comes to good jobs in small to mid-size businesses. I've had many well-educated and qualified black friends who have "white sounding" names who get called in for interviews here only to get turned away as soon as they show up. But this happens all over the country I think.

I kind of got that bless your heart stuff in Memphis too.

Those types of racist would have a problem with me and my family.

I think St Louis had more of the Chicago style of segregated racism if they don't like you they will not live next to you. When a neighborhood reaches 15 to 20 Black, people start letting their property go down and not cutting grass and such and blame it on minorities. That's when they move and then goes retail and everything else. The property starts depreciation.

[Chi-town Native]

So to connect this back to our earlier discussion about Lake View, there are race angles a plenty with this story.

When the story first broke, comments all ran the usual "why aren't they sharing the race of the perp?" line, with some people assuming he was perp, and I assume by extension, the victim was white (or at least wasn't black).

So this just broke:

Description Released in Belmont Ave. Sexual Assault - Police & Fire - Lake View, IL Patch

So my question - does it matter what race the victim is? It's a heinous crime regardless, but is it racist if it is a black guy preying on a white woman?

I am inclined to say no, because I was raised/educated to believe that there is a clear distinction between a society using its laws and codes to formally oppress people by race, and people just being a-holes to people who have a different background - even if they are bigoted towards people of a specific background.

[glass_of_merlot]

I read the comments to your link. It was more about blaming the victim.

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[Chi-town Native]

Originally Posted by glass_of_merlot

I read the comments to your link. It was more about blaming the victim.

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They deleted 2 or 3 blatantly racist ones, so I guess all that were left were the sexist comments.

Pardon my typo above, I *meant* to say that there were several of the usual suspect commenters who right off the bat assumed the perp was a black dude. I swear these people comment as a full-time job on the Trib, Sun Times, DNA Chicago, etc.

[Atlanta_BD]

Originally Posted by mjtinmemphis

Not in the Black Mecca? You know the city too busy to hate???



I kind of got that bless your heart stuff in Memphis too.

Those types of racist would have a problem with me and my family.

I think St Louis had more of the Chicago style of segregated racism if they don't like you they will not live next to you. When a neighborhood reaches 15 to 20 Black, people start letting their property go down and not cutting grass and such and blame it on minorities. That's when they move and then goes retail and everything else. The property starts depreciation.

Black Mecca Atlanta is NOT lol! At least in Chicago I knew what to expect. Here it's an I'll-smile-in-your-face kind of racism.

[mjtinmemphis]

Originally Posted by Atlanta_BD

Black Mecca Atlanta is NOT lol! At least in Chicago I knew what to expect. Here it's an I'll-smile-in-your-face kind of racism.

I agree.

The problem that I'm faced with in Chicago is people think its OK to walk around with a chip on their shoulder and not deal with the consequences. It extends far deeper than race. I watched a White guy call another White guy White trash because he wouldn't sell him a cigarette. Total strangers. The cigarrete guy just ignored it and kept it moving.

[Chi-town Native]

Originally Posted by mjtinmemphis

I agree.

The problem that I'm faced with in Chicago is people think its OK to walk around with a chip on their shoulder and not deal with the consequences. It extends far deeper than race. I watched a White guy call another White guy White trash because he wouldn't sell him a cigarette. Total strangers. The cigarrete guy just ignored it and kept it moving.

This I very sadly agree with.

I think it's the anonymity that a large urban area offers. I don't see the same kind of hostility (much less over meaningless things) when I'm in smaller towns.

I try to keep in mind the old adage of "be careful how you treat people on the way up, because you'll meet them again on the way down."

[A2DAC1985]

Someone saw me going outside to smoke a few weeks ago (I know, I'm a terrible person). They asked what I was smoking, I showed them (a stereotypical "black" cigarette brand) and they said, "That is sooo urban".

Was that a racist comment?

[urza216]

Originally Posted by A2DAC1985

Someone saw me going outside to smoke a few weeks ago (I know, I'm a terrible person). They asked what I was smoking, I showed them (a stereotypical "black" cigarette brand) and they said, "That is sooo urban".

Was that a racist comment?

I said something about the distinction I make between racists and idiots earlier..

[Chi-town Native]

Originally Posted by A2DAC1985

Someone saw me going outside to smoke a few weeks ago (I know, I'm a terrible person). They asked what I was smoking, I showed them (a stereotypical "black" cigarette brand) and they said, "That is sooo urban".

Was that a racist comment?

That reminds me of this:

R.J. Reynolds
Objectives. The purpose of this study was to describe RJ Reynolds (RJR) Tobacco Company’s strategy for targeting African Americans, as revealed in tobacco industry documents and magazine advertisements.

Methods. The authors searched industry documents to determine RJR’s strategies and analyzed magazine advertising during 2 periods: the time of the launch of the company’s Uptown cigarette (1989–1990) and a decade later (1999–2000).

Results. RJR’s efforts to target the African American market segment existed before and after Uptown, and the company’s strategy was largely implemented via other RJR brands. Advertisements featured mentholated cigarettes, fantasy/escape, expensive objects, and nightlife.
Conclusions. To help all populations become tobacco-free, tobacco control practitioners must understand and counter tobacco industry strategies.