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Poverty doesn't equal violence. Look at the Appalachian people- they always were and still are the poorest in the country but they live peacefully. Connecting gang violence to poverty once again is flawed. Poverty was only linked to crime when people were starving and they would steal bread or any food to feed their family (or would rob someone of money)- they committed crime to survive. Those times are long gone- people welfare, food stamps and free housing- definitely no one here is starving.
Look at the cartel, the leaders are filthy rich but they commit crime. There are poor people living in shacks in 3rd world countries but they're not criminals- they make it with what they have. Crime is nothing else but a culture and not having parents at home to raise them properly to set an example.
Yeah, the whole “it’s poverty and segregation” cop-out is so cliche and misplaced.
One of those community activists said it succinctly on TV after a 9 year old was killed on the near North side this past weekend: it’s not having a job that’s the problem it’s an attitude, someone was “disrespected”, or a grudge.
Two things never mentioned in any of this: personal or parental responsibility. These are taboo especially among the dogmatic marxists disguised as progressives let alone among the career race baiters and white guilt shakedown pros. The Race Game is a big business. You gotta get kids on the proper socializing road by age 4 regardless of social class or race.
The woke white folks must be at their beach homes now while they leave their collateral damage known as Real Black Lives to deal with the fallout of their revolution and defund the police b.s.
Ironic that Little Lori Lighthead blasted Trump with her vulgar F U tweet on May 29 as she had everything under control...and just over 2 months later we’re seeing a nationwide tragedy.
The Obama Effect...The Ferguson Effect...The Floyd Effect. The Floyd Effect is gonna be real bad.
Last edited by Castlebar; 08-05-2020 at 07:29 AM..
Yeah, the whole “it’s poverty and segregation” cop-out is so cliche and misplaced.
One of those community activists said it succinctly on TV after a 9 year old was killed on the near North side this past weekend: it’s not having a job that’s the problem it’s an attitude, someone was “disrespected”, or a grudge.
Two things never mentioned in any of this: personal or parental responsibility. One is a racist if these taboo topics are mentioned especially among the dogmatic marxists disguised as progressives; let alone among the career race baiters and white guilt shakedown experts. The Race Game is a big business. You gotta get kids on the proper socializing road by age 4, and that’s the parents’ job whether poor, working or middle class, or even in the notorious 1%.
The woke white folks must be at their beach homes now while they leave their collateral damage known as Real Black Lives to deal with the fallout of their revolution and defund the police b.s.
Ironic that Little Lori Lighthead blasted Trump with her vulgar F U tweet on May 29 as she had everything under control...and just over 2 months later we’re seeing a nationwide tragedy.
The Obama Effect...The Ferguson Effect...The Floyd Effect. The Floyd Effect is gonna be real bad.
Again. Trump respects hitting below the belt. Probably though she has a set don't she. He clearly spoke with her on the phone and he use his Art of the Deal with her.
She got a promise of no Portland tactics and Trump threw some money to the city. No tweetstorm now against the mayor by Trump.
No rhetoric just a deal...... Hopefully things work to get a grip on this current gang hits mentality without the Portland effect.
I'm right off of Diversey and Sheridan as well. I follow the Chicago scanner and yes, a lot more muggings. Couple weeks ago, on the Belmont El, a woman was attacked during the day. I always thought our area was safe until my sister talked to a cop (she's a cop as well) who's district this is and he said this area isn't as safe as people believe.
Just to give you an example what's going on in Chicago: AN HOUR AGO:
Gold Coast: shooting 79 E Oak (Rush) 3 people shot per dispatch. CPD looking for suspect vehicle on Lake Shore Drive. Oak St shut down State St to Inner LSD. One died.
Btw: That's a very expensive and touristy area.
Yeah, the whole “it’s poverty and segregation” cop-out is so cliche and misplaced.
One of those community activists said it succinctly on TV after a 9 year old was killed on the near North side this past weekend: it’s not having a job that’s the problem it’s an attitude, someone was “disrespected”, or a grudge.
Two things never mentioned in any of this: personal or parental responsibility. These are taboo especially among the dogmatic marxists disguised as progressives let alone among the career race baiters and white guilt shakedown pros. The Race Game is a big business. You gotta get kids on the proper socializing road by age 4 regardless of social class or race.
The woke white folks must be at their beach homes now while they leave their collateral damage known as Real Black Lives to deal with the fallout of their revolution and defund the police b.s.
Ironic that Little Lori Lighthead blasted Trump with her vulgar F U tweet on May 29 as she had everything under control...and just over 2 months later we’re seeing a nationwide tragedy.
The Obama Effect...The Ferguson Effect...The Floyd Effect. The Floyd Effect is gonna be real bad.
This is what it comes down to. When I would take the CTA into work (pre-pandemic) for years, I would see kids and teens alone on the train, and the things coming out of their mouths and how they were acting at such a young age was shocking. It was evidence of not being properly socialized. Other instances when even young adults (probably in their 20s-30s) blasting music full volume or yelling/cursing on a packed train and couldn't care less what people thought.....another example of poor socialization. They just don't understand social norms. The question is, since they were not properly socialized, can anything be done now to address it?
Again. Trump respects hitting below the belt. Probably though she has a set don't she. He clearly spoke with her on the phone and he use his Art of the Deal with her.
She got a promise of no Portland tactics and Trump threw some money to the city. No tweetstorm now against the mayor by Trump.
No rhetoric just a deal...... Hopefully things work to get a grip on this current gang hits mentality without the Portland effect.
But the buck stops with Lighthead on this one. She could have done something on May 29 as Trump suggested but her ego and cojanes Won out. Let’s be realistic as well on another point: Lori doesn’t like men generally and white men in particular. Not a good leadership trait.
Love or hate him, Trump was right on May 29 when he warned Lighthead about violence...got a big F U response. Proof is the Chicago Mayhem since May 30
Real easy solution to this Portland Tactics mantra: don’t let rioters try to repeatedly burn down a federal courthouse. Interesting that even the woke white play land that is Portland is experiencing The Floyd Effect.
But the buck stops with Lighthead on this one. She could have done something on May 29 as Trump suggested but her ego and cojanes Won out. Let’s be realistic as well on another point: Lori doesn’t like men generally and white men in particular. Not a good leadership trait.
Love or hate him, Trump was right on May 29 when he warned Lighthead about violence...got a big F U response. Proof is the Chicago Mayhem since May 30
Real easy solution to this Portland Tactics mantra: don’t let rioters try to repeatedly burn down a federal courthouse. Interesting that even the woke white play land that is Portland is experiencing The Floyd Effect.
I agree with your post. However, in Portland there is no longer a "Floyd" effect. All that's left there now are anarchists who've latched on to an opportunity to raise hell. Even from the start this had very little to do with George Floyd, a drugged up career criminal that the MEDIA has now created as some kind of worshipful example for idolizing.
I said you cannot legislate prosperity. Prosperity has to come from each individual person. Look at the statistics, even people who win the lottery become bankrupt within 6 years. You cannot legislate to have people be fiscally responsible. You cannot force people to not commit crime.
"Culture"- not having parents at home because parents are either drug users, gang bangers, or just simply don't care. The streets are raising the kids, which means that will be another generation of violence. It ALL begins at home. Single family households in those neighborhoods is a problem. Kids having kids and being able to afford them. Rap or hip hop- violent lyrics. If you talk to most of the kids from the hood, I would bet that very few say they want to be a doctor, lawyer, engineer. I bet most want to be a football or basketball player and a rapper. Those the their role models. You point to Dr. Ben Carson, Dr. Carol Swain, Thomas Sowell- they will 1. most likely not know who they are or 2. call them Uncle Tom. If a successful black person speaks fluent English, they are ousted and called traitors to their race. It has to start with the change of the culture in their neighborhood. Like I said if they all did these 3 things, they would escape violence and poverty: 1. finish school (any school, college or trade school), learn a trade 2. Don't commit crime. 3. Don't have kids out of wedlock. Those 3 things almost guarantee success in life. And I don't mean it guarantees they will become millionaire but make a decent living or better.
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I’m sure everyone knows that this Gold Coast shooting killed a 26 yo rapper know as FBG Duck and critically injured 2 others.
Deadly triple shooting at 4:30 pm on a Tuesday on swanky Oak Street (btw Michigan and Rush).
FBG Ducks “songs” were, to be polite, interesting.
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Why is the culture in Chicago different than other Democratic or liberal cities? What caused the culture in Chicago to be so different and how do you fix it? Someone said you can't legislate it, so laws or politicians won't help, so what is the solution?
I agree with your post. However, in Portland there is no longer a "Floyd" effect. All that's left there now are anarchists who've latched on to an opportunity to raise hell. Even from the start this had very little to do with George Floyd, a drugged up career criminal that the MEDIA has now created as some kind of worshipful example for idolizing.
There is a Floyd Effect in Portland meaning even there shootings and homicides have skyrocketed; July in Portland was quite deadly for that city, the worst since the ‘90s.
The Floyd Effect is not these bored white Portland a-holes playing revolution but the now happening grim and quite deadly collateral fallout known as Black Lives.
The Floyd Effect is the 10,000+ (who knows what the toll will be) black lives lost nationally with this naive, dangerous, and reckless war on police disguised as “protest” by woke white useful idiots conned into this racial division game...with a huge dose of white guilt payouts.
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I said you cannot legislate prosperity. Prosperity has to come from each individual person. Look at the statistics, even people who win the lottery become bankrupt within 6 years. You cannot legislate to have people be fiscally responsible. You cannot force people to not commit crime.
"Culture"- not having parents at home because parents are either drug users, gang bangers, or just simply don't care. The streets are raising the kids, which means that will be another generation of violence. It ALL begins at home. Single family households in those neighborhoods is a problem. Kids having kids and being able to afford them. Rap or hip hop- violent lyrics. If you talk to most of the kids from the hood, I would bet that very few say they want to be a doctor, lawyer, engineer. I bet most want to be a football or basketball player and a rapper. Those the their role models. You point to Dr. Ben Carson, Dr. Carol Swain, Thomas Sowell- they will 1. most likely not know who they are or 2. call them Uncle Tom. If a successful black person speaks fluent English, they are ousted and called traitors to their race. It has to start with the change of the culture in their neighborhood. Like I said if they all did these 3 things, they would escape violence and poverty: 1. finish school (any school, college or trade school), learn a trade 2. Don't commit crime. 3. Don't have kids out of wedlock. Those 3 things almost guarantee success in life. And I don't mean it guarantees they will become millionaire but make a decent living or better.
Yep, any school, even just finishing high school.
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