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If anyone can remain dead forever then death would still exist. For if death were gone then you couldn't call those that died, "dead" unless those that died were again alive.
Scriptures are pretty clear that Life is what destroys death.
the wages of Sin is death - and that is a personal thing so if Sin can destroy someone and they remain dead then sin has a Victory.
If anyone can remain dead forever then death would still exist. For if death were gone then you couldn't call those that died, "dead" unless those that died were again alive.
Scriptures are pretty clear that Life is what destroys death.
the wages of Sin is death - and that is a personal thing so if Sin can destroy someone and they remain dead then sin has a Victory.
Sin never has destroyed the sinner. He has done that all by himself/herself and there is none to blame. Not the devil. Not God. No-one. Period.
God is the One who carries out judgment and gives wages to whom wages are DUE. And the wages of sin is death, so they will be paid in FULL, FOREVER.
If anyone can remain dead forever then death would still exist. For if death were gone then you couldn't call those that died, "dead" unless those that died were again alive.
Scriptures are pretty clear that Life is what destroys death.
the wages of Sin is death - and that is a personal thing so if Sin can destroy someone and they remain dead then sin has a Victory.
I concur ... If death were eternal it would never be destroyed.
Also, if the lake of Fire is literal, then how can hades and death be throw into the lake of fire?(just another example of the illogical interpretations of scripture by fundamental Christianity)
Don't forget the the scriptures are a spiritual crypt that must be deciphered. They truth which the scriptures teach are not supposed to be readily or easily deciphered understood. Part of Gods Glory is that he conceals the matters of the truth, and the honor of kings is to search them out.
That is the meaning of the veil of the old testament which is referred to by Paul in 2Cr 3:14 ...
In the times of Christ People were hardened by their understanding of the Old Testament and that is why they rejected Christ, because he was about mercy and his words brought liberty from the law of sin and death. They preferred the law of sin to his teachings of mercy, because of their pride and their violent hearts. They were under condemnation due to the condemnation that they had in their hearts for others, being under the law.
The same thing is happening today in the Church, and has been happening for nearly 1700 years ... The church became the vessel of world condemnation and began to make war and began to murder and steal and amass treasures to themselves and ruthlessly and mercilessly extort the people in the world around them and place burdens on them, etc. ... All the things we can see that Christ was against. To this day the church at large is still suffering from the false doctrines and teachings which the evil men of old brought into the church in order to maintain their power over the world. And the church is ever living in condemnation over the world and teaching everlasting death and destruction and hate instead of mercy and love and life. They teach the will of man is superior to the will of God, and they are worshiping the creature over the creator.
Everything is inside out and upside down, and so many people simply cannot see it ...
Sin never has destroyed the sinner. He has done that all by himself/herself and there is none to blame. Not the devil. Not God. No-one. Period.
God is the One who carries out judgment and gives wages to whom wages are DUE. And the wages of sin is death, so they will be paid in FULL, FOREVER.
Unless.,,,,
and that my friends IS the gospel message.
Be found IN Christ, and the debt is PAID.
Now that IS LOVE, the purest benevolant kind.
Speaking of wages.. I think you might be confused.
See... Paul explains: For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Wages are payment for work. Sin is a master of his servant and pays wages. So your payment for working for sin is death.
But eternal life has nothing to do with wages.. it is a gift.
Paul also states: Now when a man works, his wages are not credited to him as a gift, but as an obligation. However, to the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness.
So the wages of sin is death... but then we see that:
So it is God who decides to show mercy. We can neither choose it nor work for it.
And - But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.
So Paul taught that although the wages of sin are death.. there is no wages with God.. it is a pure gift of justification to the wicked. Undeserved love and mercy..
The gift is freely given.
Once you understand the correlation between the wages of sin and the gift of God.. you will, perhaps, understand where URers are coming from.
Speaking of wages.. I think you might be confused.
See... Paul explains: For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Wages are payment for work. Sin is a master of his servant and pays wages. So your payment for working for sin is death.
But eternal life has nothing to do with wages.. it is a gift.
Paul also states: Now when a man works, his wages are not credited to him as a gift, but as an obligation. However, to the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness.
So the wages of sin is death... but then we see that:
So it is God who decides to show mercy. We can neither choose it nor work for it.
And - But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.
So Paul taught that although the wages of sin are death.. there is no wages with God.. it is a pure gift of justification to the wicked. Undeserved love and mercy..
The gift is freely given.
Once you understand the correlation between the wages of sin and the gift of God.. you will, perhaps, understand where URers are coming from.
Very nice distinction there!
I believe that man understands, on a deeper level, the pain and unrest that his adamic condition has put him in. He is tormented within himself when he tries to satisfy his fleshly desires, and finds no true peace.
Yet he doesn't realize that Christ is in him also, waiting to arise..
Jesus obtained and accomplished it by himself without our help
14Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might destroy him who holds the power of death—that is, the devil— 15and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death. Hebrews 2.
It says He freed those who all their lives were held in slavery by fear of death .
Sciotamick Who are the those the Hebrew writer is referring to ? All ? , or just christians ?
The writer of the Hebrews is addressing Jewish Christians, that needed advice in breaking themselves from the law.
The writer of the Hebrews is addressing Jewish Christians, that needed advice in breaking themselves from the law.
So only jewish christians are held in slavery by the fear of death ? . I'm no jew and i was certainlt held in slavery by it , how about you ? silly me i forgot you are jewish You're having a larf aren't you Sciota admit it.
I concur ... If death were eternal it would never be destroyed.
Also, if the lake of Fire is literal, then how can hades and death be throw into the lake of fire?(just another example of the illogical interpretations of scripture by fundamental Christianity)
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It's an illogical interpretation that was developed via futurism/dispensationalism.
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