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LOL, "this age" referred to the age that they were living in at that time, and "the age to come" is the age we are in now ... But there are still at least 3 ages left before God is all in all. This age or in the age to come also does not be never. That is like me saying, "i wont eat today or tomorrow", and then someone hears me and says that i said that I would never eat again. Silliness gone to seed
No, the age to come is post second coming. The New Heavens and Earth are the age to come. You knew that right? Obviously not.
You didn't answer twin.spin's questions even remotely, you just regurgitated a definition of usage for one of the words in the verse. Can you define and contextually apply all those definitions you produced and translate the verse from the Greek properly arranging them in order syntactically?
No, the age to come is post second coming. The New Heavens and Earth are the age to come. You knew that right? Obviously not.
No i dont know that ... I do not agree with that. Is god all in all right now? Is there no more pain right now? Is there no more death right now? Is there no more sin right now?
No, so there is yet another age to come wherein all these things will be done away with. There is an age to come when there will be no more pain, and no more sin, and no more death, and no more tears, when the lion will lay down with the lamb, and the children shall take up serpents and not be hurt, when God will be all and all, and Christ will have put down all power and authority and made a footstool of all nations.
Originally Posted by sciotamicks No, the age to come is post second coming. The New Heavens and Earth are the age to come. You knew that right? Obviously not.
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
No, it does not talk about an age before this one, it talks about this age, and the next. It plainly says such sin will never be forgiven.
anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
It is funny you guys try to say it means there is fogiveness in the 3rd or 4th age. heh-heh.
You obviously have no idea what an age is ... Paul said that there were ages before the age he was in, and ages(plural) that would come after the age he was in ... But you are saying there are only two ages, the age we are in now and the age to come.
Multiple ages to come after the time of Christ and the apostles, proof that there was more than one age to come at the time of Christ ...
Eph 2:7
That in the ages(plural) to come he might show the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
And multiple ages which had already transpired before the time of Christ and the apostles ...
Eph 3:5
Which in other ages(plural) was not made known to the sons of men, as it is now revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit
The scriptures refute you assertions yet again Finn ...
Its funny that you guys are not aware of the fact that there were multiple ages to follow the times of Christ and the apostles according to the scriptures ...
No i dont know that ... I do not agree with that. Is god all in all right now? Is there no more pain right now? Is there no more death right now? Is there no more sin right now?
No, so there is yet another age to come wherein all these things will be done away with. There is an age to come when there will be no more pain, and no more sin, and no more death, and no more tears, when the lion will lay down with the lamb, and the children shall take up serpents and not be hurt, when God will be all and all, and Christ will have put down all power and authority and made a footstool of all nations.
Again, on this we will agree to disagree ...
This isn't about if it is now, past or future, but that what nature surrounds it. And the subject and nature of the Age to Come, is POST SECOND COMING/PAROUSIA of Christ. The age to come is the age of restoration, the age of reconciliation, the age after the resurrection of the dead, the age of the new heavens and new earth, the age where sin, death, sorrow and such is NO MORE for those in the New Jerusalem, the age where God is all in all with HIS people who LOVE HIM, that is the AGE TO COME.
PS......the lion and the lamb, the wolf and the lamb and the child leading them are symbols Ironmaw....of clean and unclean animals..FYI - Fullfilled Eph 2:14
You didn't answer twin.spin's questions even remotely, you just regurgitated a definition of usage for one of the words in the verse. Can you define and contextually apply all those definitions you produced and translate the verse from the Greek properly arranging them in order syntactically?
Nope... That is my best answer... I have no greek skills whatsoever.
You obviously have no idea what an age is ... Paul said that there were ages before the age he was in, and ages(plural) that would come after the age he was in ... But you are saying there are only two ages, the age we are in now and the age to come.
Multiple ages to come after the time of Christ and the apostles, proof that there was more than one age to come at the time of Christ ...
Eph 2:7
That in the ages(plural) to come he might show the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
And multiple ages which had already transpired before the time of Christ and the apostles ...
Eph 3:5
Which in other ages(plural) was not made known to the sons of men, as it is now revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit
The scriptures refute you assertions yet again Finn ...
Its funny that you guys are not aware of the fact that there were multiple ages to follow the times of Christ and the apostles according to the scriptures ...
No one ever said there weren't world or ages to come. But what we are saying is that THE AGE TO COME is POST SECOND COMING.
You cannot stay consistent with the themes, instead you bring forth straw men arguments. Eph 3:5 is past ages/world/courses of man's dominion on earth, and Eph 2:7 is Dative Plural Masculine, referring to the eternality of God's richness and grace.
This isn't about if it is now, past or future, but that what nature surrounds it. And the subject and nature of the Age to Come, is POST SECOND COMING/PAROUSIA of Christ. The age to come is the age of restoration, the age of reconciliation, the age after the resurrection of the dead, the age of the new heavens and new earth, the age where sin, death, sorrow and such is NO MORE for those in the New Jerusalem, the age where God is all in all with HIS people who LOVE HIM, that is the AGE TO COME.
PS......the lion and the lamb, the wolf and the lamb and the child leading them are symbols Ironmaw....of clean and unclean animals..FYI - Fullfilled Eph 2:14
According to your interpretation. And i disagree with your interpretation. The age to come was talking about the age we are now in, and for the past 2000 years Israel has been in exile and have suffered the judgment which started in 70 AD ... The ages of ages is after this age and the next, after the second coming. Christ did not say, "have not forgiveness neither in this age, or in the ages of ages". Had he said that, then you would have an argument, but he did not, and you don't.
No, it does not talk about an age before this one, it talks about this age, and the next. It plainly says such sin will never be forgiven.
anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
It is funny you guys try to say it means there is fogiveness in the 3rd or 4th age. heh-heh.
So where is your proof of ONLY 2 ages?
Just that verse? You assume much...
Jude reveals AGES: to the only wise God our Saviour, is glory and greatness, power and authority, both now and to all the ages! Amen. (1:25 YLT)
Would you say "to all the ages" if there were only two? Perhaps....
There seems to be a trend in the use of "age" in the bible... can you see it?
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