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But also there is only 2 ages from the human existance stand point..the age in which they are living which is limited to years, then the age that existes after death which is timeless.
Hebrews 9:27
Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment,....
John 5:29 and come out—those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned.
"to be condemned" are not graphed into the believers
Romans 2:8 But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger.
Israel was judged in 70 AD, it already happened on earth, and does not refer to any eternal torment after death. They are still under that judgment, until they are finally given repentance to acknowledge the truth and are grafted back in, so that in the end "all Israel will be saved".
But also there is only 2 ages from the human existance stand point..the age in which they are living which is limited to years, then the age that existes after death which is timeless.
Hebrews 9:27
Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment,....
John 5:29 and come out—those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned.
"to be condemned" are not graphed into the believers
Romans 2:8 But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger.
I know of 4 different general ages spoken of in the scriptures. They are the age before the world began, the age we live in currently, the age immediately following this one where Christ shall rule, and then the Age after that when Christ shall put turn over the Kingdom unto the Father.
I know of 4 different general ages spoken of in the scriptures. They are the age before the world began, the age we live in currently, the age immediately following this one where Christ shall rule, and then the Age after that when Christ shall put turn over the Kingdom unto the Father.
I disagree. There are many ages. Pertaining to the Jews the last age was the "age to come" and it was perpetual.
Incorrect.
This Age, according to the Preterists and Amillenialists, is the Mosaic Age. The age where Israel was under the Law.
The Age to Come, is the Age when this was abolished and is post second coming.
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However, it was not eternal. Eternal has several meanings. None of which indicate an actual tangible thing. Eternal always pertains to the person speaking. If I say "eternal" no one would take me seriously (at least I hope not) but then God says it and it may have a meaning of infinite since God is able to be infinite... but you see that there is something about an "age" in the Jewish mind that differs from ours.
I agree with your last sentence.
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IMO some insights into Hebraisms are necessary when dealing with these kinds of phrases and many others used in the NT.
I agree, however, the scriptures are written plainly for anyone to understand, so it is uneccessary to get Hebrew minds and cultures to see the truth in the Bible. It was written for the Gentiles as well.....a light to the Gentiles.....The Age to Come is eternal, and that is when God and the Lamb are in the throne, and the saints serve Him, forever, and ever.
Sciotamicks, the phrase "age to come" is not actually found in the scritpures ...
Mat 12:32
And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it shall be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming.
This is a better translation.
"That which is coming" is translated from the Greek term "mellonti", which literally means the one "immediately to follow" ...
The word does not imply an age that is far in the future after other ages, but one that is immediately impending, the next age, the age we are now in ...
And the Age to Come is eternal for those who live in the New Jerusalem!
Good post twin.
No, "the last one" is not "the age to come", again the Greek word translated as "age/world to come" is "mellonti", which means "the one impending", or "the one about to happen", "the next age" ...
It does not mean, "the one that will eventually come after all the others", or "the last one" ...
No, "the last one" is not "the age to come", again the Greek word translated as "age/world to come" is "mellonti", which means "the one impending", or "the one about to happen", "the next age" ...
It does not mean, "the one that will eventually come after all the others", or "the last one" ...
Ironmaw,
You are disregarding context again. You are so close to preterism it isn't funny anymore.
The "impending age" is the age "about to come/mello," which is the Age to Come, which is the last age.
Study it for yourself. I already have.....exhaustively.
So now, Hades and Hell are mythological? LOL...you are stretching for things that aren't there.
Hades was a mythological Greek underworld. Hell meant grave. That's a fact.
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Do yo understand what Abraham's bosom is?
Do you understand what the burning flame and everlasting contempt is?
Yes. Do you?
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Your charges against the translators have once again showed me, and many others, that your interpretation is completely unfamilliar with the Bible, the message, and the purpose of the gospel.
The gospel should have been a peaceful message. Didn't happen. What happened to the Jews will happen to the Christians. You know, what goes around comes around.
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Readers of the forum, when someone questions the word of God and the holy spirit moving men in its translations for Him and His purpose, that has grown from a mere few thousand to 1.9 Billion believers globally, throw out their philosophy, immediately.
So, over 1 1/2 billion Muslims are right? You know that argument doesn't fly. How often in the times of Jesus was the majority right?
Hades was a mythological Greek underworld. Hell meant grave. That's a fact.
Sheol is the grave and underworld. Hades is the Greek underworld, which Jews since the 3rd century BC, adopted, as synonmous for Sheol.
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Yes. Do you?
Yes I do.
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So, over 1 1/2 billion Muslims are right? You know that argument doesn't fly. How often in the times of Jesus was the majority right?
Strawman. Has nothing to do with what I was presenting.
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