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Well first off, I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to someone else so for you to say "You didn't answer my question" is just completely out of sight.
It doesn't matter whether you we're talking to me in that post. You claimed in that post that history was being 'refuted' without offering your criteria for how we know that catastrophes are god induced.
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Originally Posted by allen893
The sins of the people are how you can CLEARLY distinguish divine intervention from God and what is prohecy!! Take Port Royal! The sin city of the 16th century! Known back then as the sodom of the New World. Filled with the most vile and sinful people that have ever walked the Earth. Very wealthy and rich port at it's time. What happened? Earthquake of 1692. Two thirds of the city fell into the sea and the people perished. Landslides, tsunamis, hurricanes and fires subsequently hit the island afterward and for years when many tried to rebuild it. Two Christian men survived to tell the story. Now you think that isn't divine intervention! Check. The generation of Noah. Greece. Rome. Societies, empires, and nations wiped out for their endless sins!! My god there is so many! How can NOT clearly see what is divine retribution and what is not?! Have you seen the news this year?! Historic floods, historic wildfires, historic earthquakes, historic fies, etc! The prophecy of the last days as described in the bible! Did he not say these things would occur in the last days? Yes!! So what is it you are not seeing? I hope you aren't under the impression that third world countries suffer because God isn't watching them? They are suffering because of their people! Literally! Many third world countries have currupt governments and officials leading them. They are not doing God's will at all. That is why Christian missionaries must go and help when they can because of this!!
You still have not offered any criteria to determine that god caused those events. From where I'm standing, they look like normal, although horrific, natural disasters.
ETA: Your threats boil down to "My god will get you by sending disasters at random. AND, he'll make it so that you won't even know he sent them! They'll look like completely natural events!"
How glarringly stupid . God thinks this... God thinks that.
Tell me.........
Whats God watching on TV ?
Oh sorry God was busy watching YOU. Yes....God sits with his lemonade and contemplates
misery in human survival. He's just lovin it, never bored after 1000's of years of the same ole same ole. And OMG your SO special arn't you ?
Yes you....You do everything so well, and compared to all the sinners why, YOU are a true Saint
God of course can't wait to role out the red carpet just for you.
For an extra delight in your eternal ecstasy God may allow you to WATCH all that you long for in the eternal damnation of the bulk of mankind. OMG....what unimaginable joy said the supposed "friend of God".
Be warned : God is simply a word.
Your "God" may not be whom you think , if you
are determined to attach the diminished aspects of your comprehension.
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You still have not offered any criteria to determine that god caused those events. From where I'm standing, they look like normal, although horrific, natural disasters.
Not to be rude here but I would have assumed you would have taken world history and automatically knew of the fate of these ancient civilizations. I gave you the description of Port Royal because to my knowledge, it is not in history books. Probably to keep the masses from knowing the divine truth of that nation! You know, Port Royal sounds ALOT like some U.S. cities I know. Las Vegas anyone? You think if PR got destroyed you think sin city will last any longer? That hoover dam is bound to crack and break. What a stupid idea. To build a city that endorses prostitution and pornography and calls itself sin city around a huge dam. Your just asking for a divine whooping.
How glarringly stupid . God thinks this... God thinks that.
Tell me.........
Whats God watching on TV ?
Oh sorry God was busy watching YOU. Yes....God sits with his lemonade and contemplates
misery in human survival. He's just lovin it, never bored after 1000's of years of the same ole same ole. And OMG your SO special arn't you ?
Yes you....You do everything so well, and compared to all the sinners why, YOU are a true Saint
God of course can't wait to role out the red carpet just for you.
For an extra delight in your eternal ecstasy God may allow you to WATCH all that you long for in the eternal damnation of the bulk of mankind. OMG....what unimaginable joy said the supposed "friend of God".
Be warned : God is simply a word. Your "God" may not be what you can handle if you
are determined to attach the diminished aspects of your comprehension.
And you have the right to do that. But guess what? It's not my reality. It's plain reality. Only you cannot see it. But like I said, this is your choice. May God bless you.
And may the gods smile upon you.
(See? I can be charitable! )
We get you 'fire-and-brimstone' types here quite regularly, and we direct each one of you to the Christianity forum, where this kind of post is most appropriate.
Unfortunately, it seems that you're not interested in conversing with those that have already heard your message and agree with you. Your posts seem determined to draw attention, which brings me to the only reasonable conclusion: since most of the Christianity forum's population would probably agree with you, you know you're not going to spark an argument there; you only post here because you're guaranteed to get some kind of attention, negative or otherwise.
Either that, or you're just spoiling for a fight.
Whichever it may be, I wish you luck.
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Not to be rude here but I would have assumed you would have taken world history and automatically knew of the fate of these ancient civilizations. I gave you the description of Port Royal because to my knowledge, it is not in history books. Probably to keep the masses from knowing the divine truth of that nation! You know, Port Royal sounds ALOT like some U.S. cities I know. Las Vegas anyone? You think if PR got destroyed you think sin city will last any longer? That hoover dam is bound to crack and break. What a stupid idea. To build a city that endorses prostitution and pornography and calls itself sin city around a huge dam. Your just asking for a divine whooping.
You should get your facts straight.....Theres more Churchs in las Vegas than many other . Also prostitution is not legal in Las Vegas.
Theres many decent people living there including relatives of mine who are very good people.
You bring this local up because you want to talk about immoral issues.
Are you immoral...?
No ?
Then why do you talk about immoral things more than you do goods things
Not to be rude here but I would have assumed you would have taken world history and automatically knew of the fate of these ancient civilizations. You are insertin I gave you the description of Port Royal because to my knowledge, it is not in history books. Probably to keep the masses from knowing the divine truth of that nation! You know, Port Royal sounds ALOT like some U.S. cities I know. Las Vegas anyone? You think if PR got destroyed you think sin city will last any longer? That hoover dam is bound to crack and break. What a stupid idea. To built a city that endorses prostitution and pornography and calls itself sin city around a huge dam. Your just asking for a divine whooping.
I've taken world history but I don't see the hand of god in any of these events. You are inserting your interpretation on a wide variety of events throughout history without justification. As for the Port Royal earthquake, two ministers along with 2/3 of the 'sinful' population survived. Landslides and fires are common after an earthquake and hurricanes aren't exactly unheard of in the Caribbean. Again, where is god in this example?
We get you 'fire-and-brimstone' types here quite regularly, and we direct each one of you to the Christianity forum, where this kind of post is most appropriate.
Unfortunately, it seems that you're not interested in conversing with those that have already heard your message and agree with you. Your posts seem determined to draw attention, which brings me to the only reasonable conclusion: since most of the Christianity forum's population would probably agree with you, you know you're not going to spark an argument there; you only post here because you're guaranteed to get some kind of attention, negative or otherwise.
Either that, or you're just spoiling for a fight.
Whichever it may be, I wish you luck.
I'm spoiling for a fight? I saw like 10,000 different responses to my ONE opinion. Half of those were sarcastic comments. If anyone is spoiling for a fight, it ain't me. Anyway, I am free to discuss my beliefs anywhere I please as you can as well. My post draw attention because people can't handle what I have to say. May I cordially introduce myself. I'm allenk893. Devout Baptist Christian loudmouth and I ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY. I will never close my mouth for the likes of you who want to simple redirect myself to the Christian section. If I go there, what's funny is that your fellow Atheist take up half the threads topics and responses. So I think I'm ok. I like it here.
You should get your facts straight.....Theres more Churchs in las Vegas than many other . Also prostitution is not legal in Las Vegas.
Theres many decent people living there including relatives of mine who are very good people.
You bring this local up because you want to talk about immoral issues.
Are you immoral...?
No ?
Then why do you talk about immoral things more than you do goods things
I can see I'm looking like the bad guy here and I don't like it. I'm not trying to be. I just preach the word. I make no apologies for that. But let me respond to you right quick about several things. 1, the only reason there are more churches in LV than many other places is because they are simply used as places to get married in. I am willing to bet the majority of them are not used for actual church service at all! Because Lord knows what kinds of people have stepped into those Las Vegas churches and gotten married. In my eyes, they aren't churches to me and definitely don't represent Christian people.
I didn't mean to imply your relatives aren't good people! I would never do something like that. I'm sure your relatives are great. However, it's the sins of the people that are in the entertainment venues like poker, strip joints, prostitution, etc. Their sins are great in the city. However the ones who take refuge and strength in Christ will survive any judgement God would have appointed.
I've taken world history but I don't see the hand of god in any of these events. You are inserting your interpretation on a wide variety of events throughout history without justification. As for the Port Royal earthquake, two ministers along with 2/3 of the 'sinful' population survived. Landslides and fires are common after an earthquake and hurricanes aren't exactly unheard of in the Caribbean. Again, where is god in this example?
2/3 of the population DID NOT SURVIVE! Some may have survived the EARTHQUAKE! But they did not survive the landslides, the diseases from the dead, the hurricanes, and fires that started thereafter!!!
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