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Old 10-03-2010, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Think about it more deeply then . . . your "fruit" of responding to me on this forum would indicate a belief that I do indeed exist to respond to . . . otherwise you are insane.
Solipsism. Or consider the possibility that we're all part of someone else's dream, and I'm not even responding to you in reality. I don't exist, you don't exist, just one being--and his or her imagination--are at work here. Thus, I can't say for sure that I believe that I am responding to you, because I may not even exist.

Every belief I hold required a conscious decision.
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Old 10-04-2010, 06:18 AM
 
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ancient warrior,

re: "Asked and answered. See post # 26."

I don’t see where your post #26 states why you don’t want to demonstrate - in realtime - your stated ability to consciously CHOOSE to believe things.
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Old 10-04-2010, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Oregon
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MysticPHD posted:

>>Belief is not a choice<<

I choose to believe that it is.
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Old 10-04-2010, 07:21 AM
 
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Belief is based on evidance faith is not.
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Old 10-04-2010, 07:33 AM
 
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Belief is based on evidance faith is not.
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Which brings us back to the first post on this thread.

Faith is not necessarilty based on evidence.
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:41 AM
 
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MysticPHD posted:
>>Belief is not a choice<<
I choose to believe that it is.
You prefer to THINK that it is.
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Old 10-04-2010, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Some of us have to THINK about what we BELIEVE. If we THINK something is true, then we obviously believe it to be--whether it actually is or not.
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Old 10-04-2010, 11:34 AM
 
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ancient warrior,

re: "I choose to believe that it is."
 
If that is true, then you have to be able to CHOOSE to believe - be convinced without a doubt - that beliefs cannot be CHOSEN. So how about now - while you are reading this - demonstrate your ability by believing that beliefs cannot be obtained by consciously CHOOSING to have them.
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Old 10-04-2010, 11:48 AM
 
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Tkramar,

re: "Every belief I hold required a conscious decision."
 
If by that you mean that you can consciously CHOOSE to believe things, I would ask you - as I have asked ancient warrior who so far has ignored my request - to do as I requested in post #19.
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Old 10-04-2010, 11:54 AM
 
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No problem.
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