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Jesus can and will come again. And here is how He will return.
Revelation 20:11 And I saw heaven opened; and behold, a white horse, and He who sat upon it is called Faithful and True; and in righteousnes He judges and wages war. 12] And His eyes are a flame of fire, and upon His head are many diadems; and He has a name written upon Him which no one knows except Himself. 13] And He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood; and His name is called The Word of God. 14] And the armies which are in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, were following Him on white horses. 15] And from His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may smite the nations; and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty. 16] And on His robe and on His thigh He has a nme written, ''KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.'' 17] And I saw an angel standing in the sun and he cried out with a loud voice, saying to all the birds which fly in midheaven, ''Come, assemble for the great supper of God; 18] In order that you may eat the flesh of kings and the flesh of commanders and the flesh of mighty men and the flesh of horses and of those who sit on them and the flesh of all men, both free men and slaves, and small and great.
Matthew 24:27 'For just as the lightning comes from the east, and flashes even to the west, so shall the coming of the Son of Man be. Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.
Zechariah 14:4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which is in front of Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives will be split in its middle from east to west by a very large valley, so that half of the mountain will move toward the north and the other half toward the south.
This is how Jesus will return and put an end to the tribulation and usher in His Millennial Kingdom.
There will be no mistaking Him!!! But the church (part of the armies mentioned in Rev 19:14) will return with Him.
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Originally Posted by Mike555
No believer will be left behind in the rapture. Only unbelievers will be left to go into the tribulation. When Christ returns at the end of the tribulation, only believers will be left on the earth to go into the Millennial kingdom. This is all Scriptural.
When Jesus came the first time, He came as the Lamb of God. He came as the suffering servant. His mission was to go to the Cross to die for the sins of the world so that those who receive Him as Savior could have eternal life.
But when He returns at the end of the Tribulation, He comes not as the Lamb of God, but as The Lion of Judah. When He returns He utterly destroys the armies of the antichrist who are attacking Jerusalem. Then He sets about establishing His Kingdom. And as already said, No unbeliever will go into that kingdom. Just as Jesus will have slain the armies who attack Jerusalem, He will convene judgment on the nations as per Matthew 25:41, and separate the sheep (believers) from the goats (unbelievers). The goats - the unbelieves will all be slain, their souls - the real person will be cast into the eternal fire, while their bodies will as mentioned in different passages, be left for the vultures. This will be the first order of business as the Lord establishes His kingdom on this earth. This will be a function of divine justice, divine judgment on all who have rejected Him.
Revelation 19:15 'And from His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may smite the nations; and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty. 16] And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name writen, ''KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.''
The first time Jesus came, He came to fulfill a specific purpose. The second time He comes, He comes to fulfill a different specific purpose.
And I assure you, that the rapture of the church and the 7 year Tribulation period which follows is quite real. Hal Linsey has nothing to do with it.
AMEN Mike!!!!!!!!!! God bless you for always posting the truth, the truth lines up with what Jesus taught!!
This is why the rapture makes no sense to me anymore. I used to be like Mike and push the belief in a rapture but I just can't do that now. It defies all logic and there's no real proof in the Bible except for a few vague scriptures that elude to "something", but I doubt very seriously it will happen as rapture believers think it will, if at all. We can all rest assured that Jesus is coming back at least once, but not twice.
thanks.that's the only thing that makes sense to me,too.
so beleivers need not feel disapointed when Jesus does not show up at the time they think a rapture *should happen.it is in love that He does NOT cause these things to happen
Hello to everyone,
Have you ever wondered how Jesus can come again? We're so consumed by the media, and they drive every story. He'll be chased by the paparazzi and will be on every new channel. Will He have to attend press conferences? How will people know it's Him? We've had plenty of people already claim to be Jesus. What do you all think?
Well, Jesus said that there will be some who will come in His name and say that they are Him, but He said do not believe them, because when He comes back everyone, I mean everyone will see Him coming on the clouds.
Jesus said that they shall see the Son of Man coming in the clouds, not hear about. So, when Jesus comes, we will see Him, like everyone in the world can see the Sun in the sky.
So, I want be looking for Jesus on the news, or on google, I will be looking for Jesus to come the same way that He ascended into the clouds, if He is actually comes during my time.
Well, Jesus said that there will be some who will come in His name and say that they are Him, but He said do not believe them, because when He comes back everyone, I mean everyone will see Him coming on the clouds.
Jesus said that they shall see the Son of Man coming in the clouds, not hear about. So, when Jesus comes, we will see Him, like everyone in the world can see the Sun in the sky.
So, I want be looking for Jesus on the news, or on google, I will be looking for Jesus to come the same way that He ascended into the clouds, if He is actually comes during my time.
No, God is not evil. His judgments are in righteousness.
It is not a matter of interpretation. The Scriptures are quite clear. Concerning the judgment of the nations when the unbeliever is cast into the eternal fire, Matthew 25:41 says this. 'Then He (Jesus speaking of Himself) will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, acursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; 46] ''And these will go away into eternal puishment, but the righteous into eternal life.''
And with regard to their corpses, Revelation 19:17 says this: 'And I saw an angel standing in the sun and he cried out with a loud voice, saying to all the birds which fly in midheaven, ''Come, assemble for the great supper of God; 18] In order that you may eat the flesh of kings and the flesh of commanders and the flesh of mighty men and the flesh of horses and of those who sit on them and the flesh of all men, both free men and slaves, and small and great.
I didn't write the Scriptures. The Scriptures are God-breathed. This is divine revelation. You can accept it or reject it.
Yes, I did. The world currently belongs to Satan. God turned the world over to Satan when Adam sinned. When Christ returns, the ownership of the world will go to Christ and He will establish His earthly Millennial kingdom upon it.
Everything in Revelation is real. Figurative lanquage is used to discribe those things which are real.
The Bible is not contradictory. God's plan is dispensational. When Jesus said His kingdom is not of this world, He had offered the kingdom to Israel. The Jews rejected Christ and rejected the kingdom. It was therefore postphoned until the second advent of Christ. The church-age is the mystery form of the kingdom, but the literal, physical kingdom of heaven will be established on the earth at the time of Christ's second advent.
It is Christ who will cast all unbelievers off the earth as per Matthew 25:41. You have already been given the Scripture which declares that Jesus will indeed kill all unbelievers on the earth when He returns. Only believers will go into the Millennial kingdom. And though it will be a time of peace, mortal man will still have a sin nature, and there will still be those who rebel against Christ. He will destroy them as per Revelation 20:7-9.
The command is 'You will not murder' and refers to the crime of murder. It does not refer to killing in warfare, or in self-defense, or in capital punishment of the murderer.
Jesus Christ is God and it is His creation, and like all universalists, you just keep rejecting the fact that God judges the unbeliever with eternal separation from Him in the lake of fire.
You just said that Jesus Christ is not God. In saying that, you have shown that you do not believe in the Jesus Christ of the Bible. One cannot have always denied the deity of Christ and have ever have been saved. It is therefore no wonder that you reject what the Scriptures say about the fact that Jesus will indeed cast all unbelievers off the earth when He returns at the end of the Tribulation. The Scriptures clearly show that He will establish His kingdom when He returns. You refuse to see this.
You try to mold God into your image of what He should be, instead of accepting what God has revealed about Himself in His word.
As I said, it is none of my concern what you believe. But it should be of importance to you. You need to come to a realization that Jesus Christ is God and that He came into the world to die for your sins. And that all sins have been judged and that only by believing in Him can you have eternal life. But you must believe in the real Jesus. Jesus Christ is undiminished deity and true humanity in one Person. He is the unique Person of the universe. If you deny His deity, then you have believed in another Jesus who cannot save you. You have not believed in the Jesus who died as a substitute for you.
Well, I wish you well on your journey. Yours isn't one I want to take. I know God and I know Jesus. They are both Love and I follow that Love.
Yep. According to the 'rapture', Jesus is coming 2 more times. First He comes and hovers a few hundred/thousand feet off the ground to get his church, then He leaves and comes back either 3 1/2 or 7 years later, depending upon what you believe, THEN He comes again and His feet split the mount of Olives in half.
Ilene, as you know, there are dark forces at work that don't want anybody to let go of this nonsense. (dark forces = ignorance and pride)
If I get the sequence right from Mike
Visit 1: Jesus Hovers in the Sky over the US, Iran and all the world
Then,
Step 1: Mike is hauled up by a law against gravity
Step2: Other Mike Like believers fly upoward to meet Christ
Step3: They stay with Christ in the clouds, absorbing UV rays and
getting wet during rain and snow. If a good Arab believer is among
them will he need water?
Step4: Christ now tired of Mike and Co, after 7 years comes down to earth
and lands in ----------??? By this time only unbelievers like me are
left in the world. Some may be in nite clubs, some may be at work
others might be watching TV.
Step 5 Unbelievrs are killed, their bodies left to rot. No grave, not even a
shallow grave?
Step6 A call or trumpet is blown to Mike and co still hanging in the air, to
fly down to earth and start living a new world!
Mike555: Can you please explain the statement "This world is the Devil's World"? I was under the impression that God created the Universe? And was responsible for it? I look around this world, and I see more good than bad. This world is filled with beauty and wonder. The symbiotic nature of the ecosystems; the gorgeous flora and fauna; the kindness one man can extend to another; the love that can exist between people and animals, between people, and that can exist for God; a surprise rainbow after a thunderstorm; untouched land not yet marred by civilization; the list is endless.
I love our world, and the people and animals and plants and even microscopic life that makes it the unusual and beautiful place that it is. I don't suppose it belongs to the devil (I don't believe in him, anyway), and I can't understand why anyone would? Where is that written? Is it not expressly stated in the Bible that this earth is God's creation? His domain?
Mike555: Can you please explain the statement "This world is the Devil's World"? I was under the impression that God created the Universe? And was responsible for it? I look around this world, and I see more good than bad. This world is filled with beauty and wonder. The symbiotic nature of the ecosystems; the gorgeous flora and fauna; the kindness one man can extend to another; the love that can exist between people and animals, between people, and that can exist for God; a surprise rainbow after a thunderstorm; untouched land not yet marred by civilization; the list is endless.
I love our world, and the people and animals and plants and even microscopic life that makes it the unusual and beautiful place that it is. I don't suppose it belongs to the devil (I don't believe in him, anyway), and I can't understand why anyone would? Where is that written? Is it not expressly stated in the Bible that this earth is God's creation? His domain?
Yes, God created the universe, including the earth. Adam was given stewardship of the earth, but when he sinned when he took the fruit from his wife who had been deceived by Satan, and ate the fruit, the title deed went to Satan. When Christ returns at the end of the tribulation, He wll take possession of the earth.
In the meantime;
The world is Satan's domain: Job1:7; 1 Peter 5:8
Satan is the ruler of this world: John 12:31; 14:30; 16:11
Satan is the prince of the power of the air: Eph. 2:2
Satan influences rulers: 1 Chronicles 21:1-5
Therefore, believers are commanded to...
Ephesians 6:10 Finally, be strong in the Lord, and in the strength of HIs might. 11] Put on the full armor of God, that you may be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. 12] For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13] Therefore, take up the full armor of God, that you may be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
In John 14:30 Jesus said, ''I will not speak much more with you, for the ruler of the world (kosmou) is coming, and he has nothing in Me.
Satan is the ruler of this world, but he cannot control it very well, as he lacks the character and ability to do so.
Dr. Lewis Sperry Chafer, who founded Dallas Theological Seminary and was its first president, wrote the following concerning Satan's cosmic system...
''Next to the lie itself, the greatest delusion Satan imposes---reaching to all unsaved and to a large proportion of Christians---is the supposition that only such things as society considers evil could originate with the devil---if, indeed, there be any devil to originate anything. It is not the reason of man, but the revelation of God, which points out that governments, morals, education, art, commercialism, vast enterprises and organizations, and much of religious activity are included in the cosmos diabolicus. That is, the system which Satan has constructed includes all the human good which he can incorporate into it and be consistent in the thing he aims to accomplish. A serious question arises whether the presence of gross evil in the world is due to Satan's intention to have it so, or whether it indicates Satan's inability to execute all he has designed. The probability is great that Satan's ambition has led him to undertake more than any creature could ever administer.''
Dr. Lewis Sperry Chafer, Systematic Theology, vol II., p.100.
If you believe what the word of God says concerning Jesus Christ, then believe also what it says concerning Satan.
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