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I think this actually belongs in the Jewish forum. Jesus did not say anything about keeping feasts. Jesus' life and death was the fulfillment of the law. You seek to overthrow people's faith in the simplicity of the message of Christ. You are a Jewish proselytizer running loose in a Christian forum, that's all. You trust in your knowledge of the Old System that Christ came to fulfill in order to make a NEW WAY that included gentiles and no room for boasting. Without true humility, no one can stand in God's presence. Perhaps you should take up studying the Royal law of love.
What kind of Paul are you following? Did you see those liars lying against Stephen? Liars paid to tell lies against the disciples to kill them?
I am the original Christian, the things you are saying is not what Jesus said. What did Jesus say?
Matthew 5
17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
They stoned Stephen to death because they said Stephen was going around teaching Jews not to keep the laws of Moses, was Stephen a false prophet deserving of death because he went around teaching Jews not to keep the laws of Moses?
You insinuate that that is exactly what Stephen did, and if Stephen was guilty of teaching Jews not to keep the laws of Moses, then by the law of Moses, Stephen was deserving the death he received.
They kept bringing Paul into trial before the council to decide if Paul was teaching Jews not to keep the laws of Moses, was Paul also guilty and deserving a righteous death penalty?
NO, Paul proved that what people were saying about him were lies and rumors, and so do you now claim that Paul was guilty of going around teaching Jews not to keep the laws of Moses?
Paul's Arrival at Jerusalem ~ Paul makes sacrifices under the authority of HIS PRIESTS, liars and people telling rumors of Paul were about to get Paul killed and Paul had to prove his innocence of the lies and rumors that still abound about Paul.
Acts 21 17And when we were come to Jerusalem, the brethren received us gladly. 18And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. 19And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry. 20And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law:21And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.22What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come. 23Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them; 24Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law.25As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication. 26Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.
Paul Seized in the Temple 27And when the seven days were almost ended, the Jews which were of Asia, when they saw him in the temple, stirred up all the people, and laid hands on him, 28Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place.29(For they had seen before with him in the city Trophimus an Ephesian, whom they supposed that Paul had brought into the temple.)
Liars everywhere telling lies against Jesus, against his disciples, against Paul that this Jesus came to abolish the law when Jesus said the opposite.
WHOEVER KEEPS THE LAWS OF MOSES AND TEACHES OTHERS TO KEEP THE LAWS OF MOSES WILL BE THE GREATEST IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.
WAS JESUS RIGHT OR WRONG?
Exactly what Gospel are you teaching?
Jesus and Paul wrong or even worse, LIARS?
If Jesus and his disciples came teaching against the word of the father then they were false prophets deserving death and we still wait on a Messiah to come teaching secrets of the law.
What kind of Paul are you following? Did you see those liars lying against Stephen? Liars paid to tell lies against the disciples to kill them?
I am the original Christian, the things you are saying is not what Jesus said. What did Jesus say?
Matthew 5
[URL="http://biblehub.com/matthew/5-17.htm"]17[/URL]Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. [URL="http://biblehub.com/matthew/5-18.htm"]18[/URL]For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. [URL="http://biblehub.com/matthew/5-19.htm"]19[/URL]Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
[URL="http://biblehub.com/matthew/5-20.htm"]20[/URL]For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
They stoned Stephen to death because they said Stephen was going around teaching Jews not to keep the laws of Moses, was Stephen a false prophet deserving of death because he went around teaching Jews not to keep the laws of Moses?
You insinuate that that is exactly what Stephen did, and if Stephen was guilty of teaching Jews not to keep the laws of Moses, then by the law of Moses, Stephen was deserving the death he received.
They kept bringing Paul into trial before the council to decide if Paul was teaching Jews not to keep the laws of Moses, was Paul also guilty and deserving a righteous death penalty?
NO, Paul proved that what people were saying about him were lies and rumors, and so do you now claim that Paul was guilty of going around teaching Jews not to keep the laws of Moses?
Paul's Arrival at Jerusalem ~ Paul makes sacrifices under the authority of HIS PRIESTS, liars and people telling rumors of Paul were about to get Paul killed and Paul had to prove his innocence of the lies and rumors that still abound about Paul.
Acts 21
[URL="http://biblehub.com/acts/21-17.htm"]17[/URL]And when we were come to Jerusalem, the brethren received us gladly. [URL="http://biblehub.com/acts/21-18.htm"]18[/URL]And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. [URL="http://biblehub.com/acts/21-19.htm"]19[/URL]And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry. [URL="http://biblehub.com/acts/21-20.htm"]20[/URL]And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law: [URL="http://biblehub.com/acts/21-21.htm"]21[/URL]And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs. [URL="http://biblehub.com/acts/21-22.htm"]22[/URL]What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come. [URL="http://biblehub.com/acts/21-23.htm"]23[/URL]Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them; [URL="http://biblehub.com/acts/21-24.htm"]24[/URL]Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law. [URL="http://biblehub.com/acts/21-25.htm"]25[/URL]As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication. [URL="http://biblehub.com/acts/21-26.htm"]26[/URL]Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.
Paul Seized in the Temple
[URL="http://biblehub.com/acts/21-27.htm"]27[/URL]And when the seven days were almost ended, the Jews which were of Asia, when they saw him in the temple, stirred up all the people, and laid hands on him, [URL="http://biblehub.com/acts/21-28.htm"]28[/URL]Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place. [URL="http://biblehub.com/acts/21-29.htm"]29[/URL](For they had seen before with him in the city Trophimus an Ephesian, whom they supposed that Paul had brought into the temple.)
Liars everywhere telling lies against Jesus, against his disciples, against Paul that this Jesus came to abolish the law when Jesus said the opposite.
WHOEVER KEEPS THE LAWS OF MOSES AND TEACHES OTHERS TO KEEP THE LAWS OF MOSES WILL BE THE GREATEST IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.
WAS JESUS RIGHT OR WRONG?
Exactly what Gospel are you teaching?
Jesus and Paul wrong or even worse, LIARS?
If Jesus and his disciples came teaching against the word of the father then they were false prophets deserving death and we still wait on a Messiah to come teaching secrets of the law.
No, they weren't liars, Scriptures have a "book" called Hebrews... yet those names we've all learned are not Hebrew are not, nor do they answer the Question "Proverbs" 30:4-6 asks... ["What is his name and what is his Son's name....if you know it...?"] The Names we grew up using don't answer that question properly, and are not Hebrew names... the Messiah's name is Yahushua, literally meaning Yahuwah the Father is salvation... Go here to read about that and see what the different names mean... (Please...? Thank you,,, ) [url=http://www.yahuwah.co.uk/]The Name above all Names - Home[/url] [url=http://www.ha-shem.followersofyah.com/]Ha-Shem (The Name)[/url] [url=http://www.oilderrick.name/SN_Chart_I%20AM.htm]New Page 1[/url]
[url=http://www.oilderrick.name/TE_Geneology.htm]New Page 1[/url] <---- uses the KJV but solves a problem with Yahushua's geneology...
[url=http://www.yahuwah.co.uk/Did-You-Know--.html]The Name above all Names - Did You Know??[/url] <--- IMPORTANT.... A Quick History course...The whole site is worth its weight in gold....
In Lev. 23... It shows us what the real "Holidays" are... (Remember Matt. 5, 6 and 7??? Remember... Yahuwah the Father and Yahushua the Son give un-earned FAVOR to the humble... It's not an easy journey out of Babylon... mostly cause it's not very convenoent for us... but there is a way out... ot/nt... same Way...
The Father Yahuwah taught the Messiah Yahushua who taught his disciples/talmidim/taught ones/who students of History and Scripture are studyingand learning and trying to reach and teach others...
[url=http://www.torahcalendar.com]TorahCalendar.com[/url] is the calendar Lev. Ch, 23 uses...)
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"Come out of her, my People..." Rev./Hazon 18:4a...
The Pinnacle of Sin and Death is the highest culminating point of man's Religion.
Sadly that is where it views the world from...... To see and think from life and peace you'll see beyond the world and see God. The world is white unto harvest when viewed from above.
The Pinnacle of Sin and Death is Jesus dying for our sins. John 3:16
I actually believe in part that he died for sin because man, especially carnal religious minded man who being raised on God needing to be appeased, could not grasp the fact that you could be loved while STILL a sinner. All a part of waking man out of the nightmare of believing he is separated from God.
In Lev. 23... It shows us what the real "Holidays" are..
Those are the ones.
Passover ~ Death in order to create a bride
Pentecost ~ The people say,'' I will,'' to the marriage contract at Sinai, and they say yes to the promised betrothal to begin the church
The 7 feasts and the Holy 8th day just teach the bride the days of her visitations from the bridegroom and what she is to expect with each day appointed for her to be finally wed, and where she finally gives birth.
The Pinnacle of Sin and Death is Jesus dying for our sins. John 3:16
Read Genesis 3 Jimmie and see what the plain sense of the text says.
You should see that mankind is paying for it, with toil, pain in child birth and death, in the flesh sense. We all still experience those - we reap what we sow. I repeat, we are paying for what happened at "the fall of man" as it is classically known. ...except that realising your I AM state IS entering the sabbath day of rest - just by a different 'truth' (than blood). And how can blood / flesh death ever cause spiritual life..... The two are not the same. Only spiritual awakening can cause life. Awake oh sleeper....
The slaying of the animal was for a physical covering for nakedness, ...and was clearly the thin end of what became a very fat wedge.
The fear of death - what is behind the crucifixion and the sacrificial system, has got and had a very strong hold on the last 4 to 6,000 years.
Yes, JimmieJ, but you have to realize 2 thinks... "Sin" is violating the Torah/Law/firsdt 5 books of Scripture... which is why a whole lot of folks are gonna be pretty upset unless they turn things around and research this out like I have above...
Remember the Sermon on the Mount??? Yahushua both taught and strengthned the Torah/Law/Instructions.... The Scribes and Pharisees thought they could get away with one big head game and the biggest un-authorized change of a sript in human history.....
Not so.....yet there are more of them than most realize......
Pentecost ~ The people say,'' I will,'' to the marriage contract at Sinai, and they say yes to the promised betrothal to begin the church
The 7 feasts and the Holy 8th day just teach the bride the days of her visitations from the bridegroom and what she is to expect with each day appointed for her to be finally wed, and where she finally gives birth.
I will check your stuff out later, thanks.
Quite right, HF... Thank you.
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