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The truth of the gospel is that we are NOT seperated from God. Those who believe they are seperated from God are believing a lie. That is why the gospel is good news, because God has reconciled the whole world to himself through Jesus Christ. This forum has become the habitation of dead mens bones.
That is not Scriptural.
“Your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, and your sins have hidden His face from you so that He does not hear.” (Isaiah 59:2)
The good news is that God has "fixed the broken bridge" & invited us to go back across to His side.
The truth of the gospel is that we are NOT seperated from God. Those who believe they are seperated from God are believing a lie. That is why the gospel is good news, because God has reconciled the whole world to himself through Jesus Christ. This forum has become the habitation of dead mens bones.
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Originally Posted by jimmiej
That is not Scriptural. “Your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, and your sins have hidden His face from you so that He does not hear.” (Isaiah 59:2)
The good news is that God has "fixed the broken bridge" & invited us to go back across to His side.
The Good News (Gospel) is in the NT . . . NOT the OT which remains under the veil of ignorance Christ came to lift . . . unless you read it with the "mind of CHRIST" . . . not Jehovah. The churches have been in apostasy since the death of the Apostles and have corrupted the Good News with our ancient savage ancestors' fears and ignorance. Jesus achieved our salvation . . . we are responsible for our sanctification by building on His foundation of "love God and each other.".
If it's all so clear, how come so many of us disagree? Your truth is clear to you. My truth is clear to me. Someday we will all know how much of our truth is God's truth.
Well, it's very clear if your beliefs are based on the bible. If not, then you can make up any truth you want and claim it's your truth. Your truth may not be however!
Well, it's very clear if your beliefs are based on the bible.
No it isn't, lucknow. There are dozens of people who post on this forum every day who don't see eye-to-eye on various doctrines. They all base their beliefs on the Bible. That is the whole point of my thread! We read the same Bible but we interpret it differently. We focus on the verses that tell us what we want to believe and gloss over the ones that don't seem to fit in with our beliefs. We don't like to admit this, but it's true. It's true for each and every one of us. For any doctrine you want to name, there are multiple perspectives, and everyone can "prove" they're right by rattling off a bunch of scriptures that support their position. They aren't "making up" anything! Their beliefs are right there in the scriptures. Hardly anyone is willing to admit that the other guy's beliefs are right there in the scriptures, too.
The Good News (Gospel) is in the NT . . . NOT the OT which remains under the veil of ignorance Christ came to lift . . . unless you read it with the "mind of CHRIST" . . . not Jehovah. The churches have been in apostasy since the death of the Apostles and have corrupted the Good News with our ancient savage ancestors' fears and ignorance. Jesus achieved our salvation . . . we are responsible for our sanctification by building on His foundation of "love God and each other.".
Please, will you give the "ignorant ancients" crap a rest! Quit trying to change God into your own image!
If our sin had not separated us from God, Jesus would not have had to die as our "ransom".
No it isn't, lucknow. There are dozens of people who post on this forum every day who don't see eye-to-eye on various doctrines. They all base their beliefs on the Bible. That is the whole point of my thread! We read the same Bible but we interpret it differently. We focus on the verses that tell us what we want to believe and gloss over the ones that don't seem to fit in with our beliefs. We don't like to admit this, but it's true. It's true for each and every one of us. For any doctrine you want to name, there are multiple perspectives, and everyone can "prove" they're right by rattling off a bunch of scriptures that support their position. They aren't "making up" anything! Their beliefs are right there in the scriptures. Hardly anyone is willing to admit that the other guy's beliefs are right there in the scriptures, too.
And how would you know if they were making something up or not ... unless you took the time to figure it out. And I guess if one were to take the time to figure out who is making things up or not...one might just understand the ramifications of false gospels. As Jesus revealed to Paul:
" But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. "
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Well, it's very clear if your beliefs are based on the bible. If not, then you can make up any truth you want and claim it's your truth. Your truth may not be however!
Expecially when doctrines are not found in the Bible ... at least those of us who disagree among ourselves (that just throws some off in utter confusion) do agree on one aspect: the Bible is the only source of scripture.
"Your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, and your sins have hidden His face from you so that He does not hear." (Isaiah 59:2)
The good news is that God has "fixed the broken bridge" & invited us to go back across to His side.
Ideologies have consequences, if you think about it.
Now, read this for what it says:
How YOU have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! YOU have been cut down to the ground, YOU who have weakened the PEOPLE! (Isaiah 14:12)
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Quit trying to change God into your own image! 
