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Hey Thrill,
Perfect love casts out all fear.
Think on that as you continue to seek.
I know you are going through some turmoil right now but I have to say from my perspective, it is a beautiful thing. Because you are obviously showing the fruit of one who is seeking to "love God" and "love your neighbor as yourself" through your struggles to find truth. You have a lot of brothers and sisters behind you hoping you will make it around that curve in the road....so the whole magnficent vista that is the love of God opens up and brings you joyfully to your knees.
God bless you, Thrill.
I know that what I said really doesn't help you where you are right now. But I just wanted to express it because I know others feel the same way.
peace,
sparrow
Thank you, .sparrow. Rarely do words of comfort flow from people like they do from you.
So then why does Jesus say "..and to give His life a ransom for many". It makes it sound like He only died for His elect just like the Calvinists say He did. Now in other places He says, "Those that are sick do not need a physician. I have come not to call the righteous, but the sinners to repentance." So interpreted, it means that Jesus came to die for the unrighteous; that there are ones among us who are already living righteous lives and so do not need Jesus' cross to make them righteous. Or am I reading all this stuff too literally?
Thrill those who are not sick,are just not sick in their own eyes,this is what Jesus was saying,ehen He said the sick do not need a physician
We are Abraham’s descendants and have never been slaves of anyone How can you say that we shall be set free?” John 8:33.
Think for just a moment who is saying this, was this you average punter ?(your tax collector and prostitute), or someone so full of pride and arrogance and in so much darkness that he doesn't know himself(no points for guessing who this is).
Jesus also said if i be lifted up i will draw all men unto me John 12:32.
So Ken you are saying that the Truth came by Moses ?. I do not believe it did, John 1:17 says it came by Jesus Christ who is THE Truth.Do you not think it would have stated that truth came by Moses also if it was so ?.
I'm certainly thankful for the scriptures because they testify of the Truth who IS Jesus Christ.
I'm convinced if any man wants to know what Truth IS,all he needs to do is look at the life of Jesus Christ.Which throughout the scriptures we are encouraged to do.
No I don't believe the truth ONLY came by Moses, but pointed to Him. Without the OT and NT we have nothing. Blessings!
No I don't believe the truth ONLY came by Moses, but pointed to Him. Without the OT and NT we have nothing. Blessings!
Ken how did the early believers get on without the NT scriptures ?.I honestly believe if we "Let this mind be in us, which was also in Christ Jesus",then everything else will take of its self.
So then the faith is by a report, and the report through a saying of God Romans 10:17.
I have become its servant by the commission God gave me to present to you the word of God in its fullness— the mystery that has been kept hidden for ages and generations, but is now disclosed to the saints.To them God has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the glorious riches of this mystery, which isChrist in you, the hope of glory.Col 1: 25-27.
Ken how did the early believers get on without the NT scriptures ?.I honestly believe if we "Let this mind be in us, which was also in Christ Jesus",then everything else will take of its self.
So then the faith is by a report, and the report through a saying of God Romans 10:17.
I have become its servant by the commission God gave me to present to you the word of God in its fullness— the mystery that has been kept hidden for ages and generations, but is now disclosed to the saints.To them God has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the glorious riches of this mystery, which isChrist in you, the hope of glory.Col 1: 25-27.
The word of God in its fulness is Christ in us.
Paul...they had the "holy scriptures" that pointed to Him. The LXX was littered with Messianic properties, but alas, the Jews didn't like it because it pointed too much to Christ, so they rewrote it, hence the Masoretic. That's what Paul expands on so intensely that Abraham, Moses, etc all had faith in what was coming, Christ.
The mystery that Paul is talking about is the Non Israelite inclusion. That was what perplexed them all, but yet had faith in. They didn't get it, only Paul, and Christ of course, did, not even Peter or James etc. Collossians is primarily a "non" Israelite audience, and he is saying, that "Christ in you" that is, apart from the 7000 remnant that were being saved in this process, or called out, of their beggarly covenant, will be grafted under His stewardship. At least that is how I see it, for now
Ken how did the early believers get on without the NT scriptures ?.I honestly believe if we "Let this mind be in us, which was also in Christ Jesus",then everything else will take of its self.
So then the faith is by a report, and the report through a saying of God Romans 10:17.
I have become its servant by the commission God gave me to present to you the word of God in its fullness— the mystery that has been kept hidden for ages and generations, but is now disclosed to the saints.To them God has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the glorious riches of this mystery, which isChrist in you, the hope of glory.Col 1: 25-27.
The word of God in its fulness is Christ in us.
As St. Jerome put it: "Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ."
You cannot separate Jesus Christ from Old Testament scripture, nor can you understand the things of Christ without comparing what you think the Spirit is telling you against the Bible. The Spirit will NEVER contradict scripture!
As St. Jerome put it: "Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ."
You cannot separate Jesus Christ from Old Testament scripture, nor can you understand the things of Christ without comparing what you think the Spirit is telling you against the Bible. The Spirit will NEVER contradict scripture!
As St.pcamps put it "You cannot make Jesus Christ scripture".
Scripture testify's of who Jesus Christ IS . John 5:39
What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us.1 Cor 2:12
As St. Jerome put it: "Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ."
You cannot separate Jesus Christ from Old Testament scripture, nor can you understand the things of Christ without comparing what you think the Spirit is telling you against the Bible. The Spirit will NEVER contradict scripture!
The OT simply tells us of Him, what He will do so we can recognize Him . . . and the impact He will have on the world so we can validate Him. It does NOT tell us what God is like or His motives. Why would we take the OT prophets' second hand interpretations of inspirationsover the actual life, example and teachings of Christ Himself? God is as Christ revealed Him to us . . . NOT as the OT prophets believed Him to be in their ignorance, fear and superstition.
The OT simply tells us of Him, what He will do so we can recognize Him . . . and the impact He will have on the world so we can validate Him. It does NOT tell us what God is like or His motives. Why would we take the OT prophets' second hand interpretations of inspirationsover the actual life, example and teachings of Christ Himself? God is as Christ revealed Him to us . . . NOT as the OT prophets believed Him to be in their ignorance, fear and superstition.
Amen Mystic.
Jesus said " learn fromme, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke IS easy and my burden is light.”
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especially the saint part 
