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You should not dismiss anything. Instead study them and ask yourself why your current understanding of them contradicts some 200 bible verses. Ask yourself why Jesus repeated to no end that only those who believe are saved. Why did He stress it? It was His core teaching, yet your understanding thows it out the door. Wanton disregard of the scriptures is a telltale sign of a false teaching, and you disregard the very core message Jesus brought us.
Finn_Jarber, is God powerful enough to cause all to believe?
Finn_Jarber, is God powerful enough to cause all to believe?
He is powerful enough to erase physical death right now. Well, He chooses not to do that, yet that does not make Him a failure. It is according to His plan to save those who believe. Those who choose to reject Him will not be saved and that is accoding to His plan. If He saved even one person who died rejecting Him, it would make God a liar. It is that simple.
He is powerful enough to erase physical death right now. Well, He chooses not to do that, yet that does not make Him a failure. It is according to His plan to save those who believe. Those who choose to reject Him will not be saved and that is accoding to His plan. If He saved even one person who died rejecting Him, it would make God a liar. It is that simple.
If He saved even one person who died rejecting Him, it would make God a liar. It is that simple.
THAT is YOUR interpretation of the command to believe Him . . . not God's. YOU interpret it as an ego demand . . . God has no such ego needs. As long as we believe Jesus and follow His commands to "love God and each other" (even if we never heard of Him or His commands) . . . we are all welcome before the Lord.
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Last edited by Miss Blue; 12-17-2011 at 09:27 PM..
It has nothing to do with ego, and everything to do with what Jesus taught.
It has everything to do with ego . . . there can be no other reason for requiring specific acknowledgement. If you know of one please tell.
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If quoting words of Jesus offends you, then that's too bad. I can't help you with that, but I can tell you Jesus also said that some will be offended by the truth.
Quoting Jesus doesn't offend me . . . misinterpreting what He said does. You misuse pisteuo eis and think it means "believe IN Him" . . . when the closest actual translation to our idiom would be "believe Him" (believe on/into). You follow a completely apostate Gospel built around the believing IN Him idiom . . . when it should be built around believing Him and following His commands . . . not a bunch of "precepts and doctrines of men."
He is powerful enough to erase physical death right now. Well, He chooses not to do that, yet that does not make Him a failure. It is according to His plan to save those who believe. Those who choose to reject Him will not be saved and that is accoding to His plan. If He saved even one person who died rejecting Him, it would make God a liar. It is that simple.
I agree with you that He will not save those who choose not to believe. As a great many universalists do as well. However, my question was is He Powerful enough to cause all to believe? You didn't answer THAT question. If He is Powerful enough to cause all to believe then wouldn't you agree that if ALL believe that would mean all will be saved?
Those who choose to reject Him will not be saved and that is according to His plan.
If He saved even one person who died rejecting Him, it would make God a liar.
Hi Modeerf, will anyone have a choice when all will one day confess Him and swear allegiance to Him, be subjected to Him? God bless.
Is your belief that Satan formerly Lucifer will swear allegiance to Him?
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