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Old 03-28-2013, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I am not having this argument with you lady. I asked a simple question. If you can't confine yourself to answering that question but insist on getting on your self righteous high horse and judging me for not condoning something that's both illegal and immoral, that's your problem.
Now, that's a wonderful testimony of the human nature.
Could it be that young people learn from their elders?


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Old 03-29-2013, 07:17 AM
 
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How is this discussing over a debate on weed. We have no clue what drug the kid did, it could be weed, crack, cocaine , heroin, or any other drug that is in his system.

Every single one of you in this thread would tell a young kid to get lost if they asked you to pee in a bottle for them. Have you thought how disgusting it would be for you to go pee in a bottle and give it to a complete stranger for $10. What if the cops found out and you get arrested for this. If the young kid is this shady, i doubt even if the OP started witnessing to him that he would pay any attention and he would just walk away in the same manner if did when he was told he wasnt going to do the drug test for him.
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:38 AM
 
Location: USA
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How I handled the situation is not the topic of this thread. I did not ask for advice on how I should have handled it, nor for vindication regarding how I did handle it. I am fine with my response to the kid. So leave it be and give it a rest.
You may be fine with your response, but I wasn't because it showed a lack of love. And I quickly realized that the reason I wasn't fine with your response is because it sounded like something I would have done and I don't want to continue to be unloving. I took it as an opportunity to look for alternative responses, and at the same time perhaps get people thinking about how we all may be missing out on opportunities because of our judgments. Do you wonder why you've become so incensed by that?

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The only thing I am interested in on this thread is peoples opinion on whether most young people today care about right and wrong. Period!
If the only thing you were interested in was a response to a generic question, then why did you include such a specific incident? And, why do you think it is that you wanted to encourage others to judge an entire generation? Just to satisfy your curiosity? I don't think so. But, regardless, just because that is all you say you're interested in doesn't mean that a discussion of the incident that you introduced in the op, and how we can all learn from it, is off limits. Why would you want it to be?




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How is this discussing over a debate on weed. We have no clue what drug the kid did, it could be weed, crack, cocaine , heroin, or any other drug that is in his system.

Every single one of you in this thread would tell a young kid to get lost if they asked you to pee in a bottle for them. Have you thought how disgusting it would be for you to go pee in a bottle and give it to a complete stranger for $10. What if the cops found out and you get arrested for this. If the young kid is this shady, i doubt even if the OP started witnessing to him that he would pay any attention and he would just walk away in the same manner if did when he was told he wasnt going to do the drug test for him.
Very possible. So do we only show love to others when we are guaranteed that they will not reject it? If so, is that really love?
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:54 AM
 
Location: USA
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I think it depends considering where I live (the US) we live in a melting pot with a myriad of different people and you grow up realizing that people don't always carry the same value system as you do. Sometimes even what you consider to be right and wrong is vastly different from your peers and so instead of fighting with them and creating discord in what could've otherwise been a regular old system, you learn tolerance and respect.

You grow up with people different from you and you see the way they're functioning despite their differences and you realize that they deserve the same amount of respect.

But yes, I do care about right and wrong, particularly in my personal life.

Nice post, Royalite.
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Old 03-29-2013, 09:10 AM
 
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Nice post, Royalite.
Thank you, Pleroo.
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Old 03-29-2013, 09:44 AM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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How is this discussing over a debate on weed. We have no clue what drug the kid did, it could be weed, crack, cocaine , heroin, or any other drug that is in his system.

Every single one of you in this thread would tell a young kid to get lost if they asked you to pee in a bottle for them. Have you thought how disgusting it would be for you to go pee in a bottle and give it to a complete stranger for $10. What if the cops found out and you get arrested for this. If the young kid is this shady, i doubt even if the OP started witnessing to him that he would pay any attention and he would just walk away in the same manner if did when he was told he wasnt going to do the drug test for him.
If a police officer had been driving by at the time, I might well have waved him down and reported the kid for soliciting an illegal act. He probably wouldn't have been arrested, but it might have made him think. But then again, maybe not.
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Old 03-29-2013, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Central Maine
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In my opinion, you are getting more people who want to be a "law unto themselves" whether within any specific religion or not. Any type of authority and authority figure, except self-authority, is fast becoming passe'.
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Old 03-29-2013, 09:57 AM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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In my opinion, you are getting more people who want to be a "law unto themselves" whether within any specific religion or not. Any type of authority and authority figure, except self-authority, is fast becoming passe'.
And freedom without authority equals anarchy.
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:42 AM
 
Location: USA
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And freedom without authority equals anarchy.

True. If everyone submitted to the authority of God's law of love, no other authorities would be needed.
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:34 PM
 
Location: USA
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Ha! Ha! Probably some kid doing a little research on morals for his H.S. project. Maybe it's just me I try to give the benifit of the doubt - judge not - so they say.

Anyway, when I was a Christian I would have thougt this a pefect 'God send' to share the gospel with the guy. Moderator cut: Orphaned
Ha! I never even considered that possibility. Love your attitude.

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