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Old 05-04-2013, 12:00 PM
 
Location: New England
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I am just stating what it says - bible believers, whether 100% or not, can argue among themselves.
I actually agree with you.
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:54 PM
 
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[quote=rifleman;29419447]Q: in what specific way do the private behaviors of consulting mature adults affect you? Meantime, we have been besieged with proofs of very abhorrent sexual behavior by literally legions of so-called churchly men of unquestioned morals, but who turned out to be vigorous predators of young boys. QUOTE]

All these charges against Christianity do is prove that everything the Bible says is true - mankind has a fallen sinful nature that is subject to the Wrath of God. Without forgiveness of sins through the blood of Jesus Christ and His Spirit working in our lives, we have NO hope.

God is not Mocked, we will reap what we sow.

We best humble ourselves and come to Jesus for forgiveness of sins accepting He died in our place.
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Old 05-04-2013, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Florida
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G-d is much more likely to release his wrath on this country for all the obnoxious Christian extremists who constantly demonize his gay children. If you seriously think your views are winning people over, you're in for a seriously bad wake up call.
You can win people over to your side and to the side of the enemy, by approving/embracing their sins, but you cannot win them to God's side using that method.

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Old 05-04-2013, 07:06 PM
 
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All these charges against Christianity do is prove that everything the Bible says is true - mankind has a fallen sinful nature that is subject to the Wrath of God. Without forgiveness of sins through the blood of Jesus Christ and His Spirit working in our lives, we have NO hope.
God is not Mocked, we will reap what we sow.
We best humble ourselves and come to Jesus for forgiveness of sins accepting He died in our place.
Forgiveness along with 'repenting' according to Joel 2 vs 12-19.

see also: 2nd Chronicles 7 v 14
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Old 05-04-2013, 08:33 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Sorry, the verse does not say that. It says that God will send them the delusion in order that they should believe the lie, because they did not believe the truth, in order that they can be condemned. So God is actively seeking to delude people in order that he might condem them for rejecting him. Can anyone say - Psychiatrist Please!
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Originally Posted by Shiloh1 View Post
I am just stating what it says - bible believers, whether 100% or not, can argue among themselves.
Which then appears you saying that your not a "bible believer", that this is something we "can argue among themselves" ..... correct?
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:11 PM
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Which then appears you saying that your not a "bible believer", that this is something we "can argue among themselves" ..... correct?
Correct!
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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So let me get this right- America likes to grant full human rights to all of it's citizens but really does not give a damn if it removes human rights of millions of others all over the planet? This whole LGBT "community" - what's all that about? Why so much attention for one tenth of one percent of one percent of the people. Politically the way this is put across they make it seem that half the people in America are gay and lesbian and the other half is in the closet. People are different - as different as their finger prints...I am getting tired of hearing this stuff...over and over again.

If this is so progressive why was it not an issue 100 years ago. You would imagine something of such IMPORTANCE would have been raised and dealt with long ago. I wonder how they all survived back in the day?
So, beat the drum about drones killing wedding guests or people in economic slavery making goods for Wal-Mart to sell at lower prices.

Continuing revelation IS like that: it's about applying the principles od Jesus to situations that come to your attention.

Don't be shy, speak out. What upsets you?
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:34 PM
 
Location: southern california
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not good to read to much anger and violence into the will of God.
that is not his style.
let me ask u this
if i cross the light on the red and get hit, did God strike me down?
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Old 05-04-2013, 10:32 PM
 
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You can win people over to your side and to the side of the enemy, by approving/embracing their sins, but you cannot win them to God's side using that method.
You embrace sin. You're a self-righteous hypocrite, just like the one's Jesus condemned. Matthew 7. You bear bad fruit.
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Old 05-04-2013, 10:33 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Sorry, the verse does not say that. It says that God will send them the delusion in order that they should believe the lie, because they did not believe the truth, in order that they can be condemned. So God is actively seeking to delude people in order that he might condem them for rejecting him. Can anyone say - Psychiatrist Please!
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I am just stating what it says - bible believers, whether 100% or not, can argue among themselves.
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Which then appears you saying that your not a "bible believer", that this is something we "can argue among themselves" ..... correct?
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Correct!
Thought as much ... not surprising that the very people who reject the truth as God said in Romans 1 are the same people to be arrogant enough say to those who do what a verse does or does not say.

It's not surprising that pcamps would agree with you.
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