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Old 05-03-2013, 04:06 PM
 
Location: New England
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You keep inventing arguments and then you try to associate them to me. Why don't you answer your own arguments? I have no idea what you are talking about.
If a Christian( a follower of Christ) is found out to be in a homosexual relationship, was that Christian a follower of Christ in the first place ?. If he was, why did you say this


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Church = Followers of Christ. You might want to cut back on kicking mud on the church.
If not then why did you say it ?.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:19 PM
 
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The second half of Romans 1 has come up in past threads as God's revealing wrath in giving us over to sinful behavior.

Romans 1:18-32
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,

19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. 25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.

28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; 32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.



So here's my question - are all of the gay people coming out an indicator of God's revealed wrath on this country?
I think it may well be. God is letting the people of America have their way. They've hardened their hearts and turned from him.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I think it may well be. God is letting the people of America have their way.
They've hardened their hearts and turned from him.
No, we haven't. But, I cannot speak for you.

There are those who are returning to their first love.
Unfortunately, others attempt to block the way.

"Never, entering in themselves."
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:08 PM
 
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They've hardened their hearts and turned from him.
Do you live in a godless part of our country? They're building new churches where I live. Christian schools are opening new buildings. And you have to wait your turn to look at the Christian books in Barnes and Noble. (Teenagers. They're polite but there seem to be a lot of them.) There were televised religious memorial services for the victims in both West, Texas and Boston. (Maybe you missed those.)

Yesterday was the National Day of Prayer, BTW. The President called on people to pray. Perhaps you missed that as well.

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Old 05-03-2013, 05:19 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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I think it may well be. God is letting the people of America have their way. They've hardened their hearts and turned from him.
Sadly most have, and it's only going to worse till Jesus comes back.
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:36 PM
 
Location: New England
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I think it may well be. God is letting the people of America have their way. They've hardened their hearts and turned from him.
The God of America,Great Britain and Deutschland ..............does not quite have the same sound of individuality as The God Abraham,Isaac,Jacob and Pastor Vizio.
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Florida
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If a Christian( a follower of Christ) is found out to be in a homosexual relationship, was that Christian a follower of Christ in the first place ?. If he was, why did you say this If not then why did you say it
I said it to educate you, since you obviously didn't know what the church is. Nothing that you say has anything to do with anything I have said. You invent these arguments and pretend I have made them. I have no idea why you do this.
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Old 05-03-2013, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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No one focuses on sin.
Lemme check that OP again.
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Old 05-03-2013, 06:08 PM
 
Location: New England
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I said it to educate you, since you obviously didn't know what the church is. Nothing that you say has anything to do with anything I have said. You invent these arguments and pretend I have made them. I have no idea why you do this.
What did I say in my post that warranted you to educate me that the church= followers of Christ ?. You know you was trying to say Christians do not do the things that YOU and the rest of the 100% bible believers, believe the wrath of God is upon, in otherwords in your eyes they were never 100% bible believing followers of Christ in the first place.

If a Christian( a follower of Christ) is found out to be in a homosexual relationship, was that Christian a follower of Christ in the first place ?. Yes or no. Your refusal to answer the question will be taken as being you do not believe they were followers of Christ in the first place.

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Old 05-03-2013, 06:11 PM
 
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No one focuses on sin..
Are you serious ?.
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