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Impute means to count or reckon as righteousness. It does not mean to mystically transfer characters.
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Originally Posted by Jerwade
There is no mystical transfer of sin or character, imputed from one person to that of another. No passage states such a ridiculous absurdity that:"He imputed our sin to Christ and His righteousness to us."
Yes, and that exactly what this verse says!
2 Corinthians 5
21 God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
No, my belief is consistent with the entire bible. Your belief is consistent with a perverted gospel. Just the fact you say the old testament authors were blind savages proves this. The way you speak of Jesus here is doing nothing put helping herald in the great apostasy mentioned in the bible. I want nothing to do with this hippie God you believe it. I'll stay with the true God of the gospel who punished our sins in the body of Jesus.
Actually you are believing in the great apostasy that has already happened. How many more thousands of years did you think it would take for the latter days to be here .2000+ years is pretty "latter." The majority already DO believe the anti-Christ Gospel of the OT God our ignorant ancestors believed in. They reject the God of love Jesus revealed unambiguously with His life, teachings and death. They pervert the sense of justice into an abomination worthy of Satan . . . NOT our loving Father.
Impute means to count or reckon as righteousness. It does not mean to mystically transfer characters.
Impute does NOT mean "reckon or count" it means to literally take something and put it in someone or something else. A simple web search will tell you this or your nearest dictionary. You're guarding what it truly means because you know imputation goes against what you believe about the gospel. But it doesn't change the fact what the word really means.
I did a simple web search just to be sure, did you? (If so you will retract......or did you read just what you wanted to read? Understand what you want to hear? It really is clear.)*
Verb Represent (something, esp. something undesirable) as being done, caused, or possessed by someone; attribute.
Assign (a value) to something by inference from the value of the products or processes to which it contributes.
Synonyms
attribute - ascribe - accuse - accredit
Sort of act like it was done even though it has not. Got it?
*Should be deleted. I was misreading who said what
Last edited by nateswift; 07-08-2013 at 09:30 PM..
Reason: My error in attribution
Actually you are believing in the great apostasy that has already happened. How many more thousands of years did you think it would take for the latter days to be here .2000+ years is pretty "latter." The majority already DO believe the anti-Christ Gospel of the OT God our ignorant ancestors believed in. They reject the God of love Jesus revealed unambiguously with His life, teachings and death. They pervert the sense of justice into an abomination worthy of Satan . . . NOT our loving Father.
He must believe that because he is born again; it's just now arriving?
Actually you are believing in the great apostasy that has already happened. How many more thousands of years did you think it would take for the latter days to be here .2000+ years is pretty "latter." The majority already DO believe the anti-Christ Gospel of the OT God our ignorant ancestors believed in. They reject the God of love Jesus revealed unambiguously with His life, teachings and death. They pervert the sense of justice into an abomination worthy of Satan . . . NOT our loving Father.
Those who believe in Jesus the way you do are not that common so you really have no grounds other than personal belief inconsistent with all of scripture to say those who believe Jesus died for our sins are part of the great apostasy.
Actually you are believing in the great apostasy that has already happened. How many more thousands of years did you think it would take for the latter days to be here .2000+ years is pretty "latter." The majority already DO believe the anti-Christ Gospel of the OT God our ignorant ancestors believed in. They reject the God of love Jesus revealed unambiguously with His life, teachings and death. They pervert the sense of justice into an abomination worthy of Satan . . . NOT our loving Father.
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Originally Posted by romans519
Those who believe in Jesus the way you do are not that common so you really have no grounds other than personal belief inconsistent with all of scripture to say those who believe Jesus died for our sins are part of the great apostasy.
OF course we are not that common . . . what did you think the great apostasy would be like? The majority would believe the false, OT perverted anti-Christ Gospel and very few would believe Christ's real Gospel of love.
OF course we are not that common . . . what did you think the great apostasy would be like? The majority would believe the false, OT perverted anti-Christ Gospel and very few would believe Christ's real Gospel of love.
You have it backwards. I said there are actually few who believe in Jesus the way you do. Few unbelievers in the true gospel believe the OT authors were ignorant. I didn't say there weren't many who don't believe Jesus died for our sins. That is the great apostasy and it is being heralded into this age quickly.
You have it backwards. I said there are actually few who believe in Jesus the way you do. Few unbelievers in the true gospel believe the OT authors were ignorant. I didn't say there weren't many who don't believe Jesus died for our sins. That is the great apostasy and it is being heralded into this age quickly.
Well I follow Jesus Christ was one of those "OT perverted" who believed the Old Testament. Some people must learn that when you call Jesus a liar and mock him you are not following him. They are rejecting Jesus Christ for the god they think is in their head.
Impute means to count or reckon as righteousness.
It does not mean to mystically transfer characters.
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Originally Posted by romans519
Impute does NOT mean "reckon or count" it means to literally take something and put it in someone or something else. A simple web search will tell you this or your nearest dictionary. You're guarding what it truly means because you know imputation goes against what you believe about the gospel. But it doesn't change the fact what the word really means.
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Originally Posted by nateswift
I did a simple web search just to be sure, did you? If so you will retract......or did you read just what you wanted to read? Understand what you want to hear? It really is clear.
Verb Represent (something, esp. something undesirable) as being done, caused, or possessed by someone; attribute.
Assign (a value) to something by inference from the value of the products or processes to which it contributes.
Synonyms
attribute - ascribe - accuse - accredit
Sort of act like it was done even though it has not. Got it?
Separated posters in order to see who was being referenced by Nateswift.
As both Romans and mine, were attributed to me? Clarification was requested.
Last edited by Jerwade; 07-08-2013 at 09:41 PM..
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