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Old 02-12-2014, 11:07 AM
 
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So here's the bottom line issue on all these posts I've made about Paul. I implicitly reject his gospel "by grace are ye saved through faith alone; not of works".

I embrace Jesus' gospel "Whosoever believes on the Son shall not perish" + "What must I do to inherit eternal life? Do not steal; do not bear false witness; Love God and do good to your fellow man."

So am I going to eternal damnation because I reject salvation by faith alone, or am I going to heaven because I believe salvation involves believing in Jesus plus doing good works for my fellow man?
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Old 02-12-2014, 11:13 AM
 
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Jesus's promises are trustworthy and true. Do what He says you must do to be saved, and you will be saved.
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Old 02-12-2014, 11:26 AM
 
Location: US
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So here's the bottom line issue on all these posts I've made about Paul. I implicitly reject his gospel "by grace are ye saved through faith alone; not of works".

I embrace Jesus' gospel "Whosoever believes on the Son shall not perish" + "What must I do to inherit eternal life? Do not steal; do not bear false witness; Love God and do good to your fellow man."

So am I going to eternal damnation because I reject salvation by faith alone, or am I going to heaven because I believe salvation involves believing in Jesus plus doing good works for my fellow man?
Not according to what Yeshua stated...The Faith I think one must have is believing what He has stated as the Way to Salvation, not the faith of believingthat He died for our sins lliterally, but, He died because of our sins and willingly did this...He died because He showed the Way to His G-d and Father and our G-d and Father...I would say that His resurrection was a miracle to prove that He was chosen and sent by the Father to put things back on track and His message differed from wha the local rulers wanted so, their unbelief in what He proclaimed, and ours, is why He was murdered...This is what I am seeing as I proceed with my research and studies,, however, I could be wrong...
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Old 02-12-2014, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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So am I going to eternal damnation because I reject salvation by faith alone, or am I going to heaven because I believe salvation involves believing in Jesus plus doing good works for my fellow man?
You're going to Heaven. Despite what one particular poster is going to tell you, God doesn't send people to Hell for doing good works.
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Old 02-12-2014, 12:06 PM
 
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So here's the bottom line issue on all these posts I've made about Paul. I implicitly reject his gospel "by grace are ye saved through faith alone; not of works".

I embrace Jesus' gospel "Whosoever believes on the Son shall not perish" + "What must I do to inherit eternal life? Do not steal; do not bear false witness; Love God and do good to your fellow man."

So am I going to eternal damnation because I reject salvation by faith alone, or am I going to heaven because I believe salvation involves believing in Jesus plus doing good works for my fellow man?
You have fallen out of grace like the Galatians did but you will still be saved for eonian life if you truly do believe the evangel of 1 Cor.15:1-4. Good luck doing all the law.
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Old 02-12-2014, 12:12 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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So here's the bottom line issue on all these posts I've made about Paul. I implicitly reject his gospel "by grace are ye saved through faith alone; not of works".

I embrace Jesus' gospel "Whosoever believes on the Son shall not perish" + "What must I do to inherit eternal life? Do not steal; do not bear false witness; Love God and do good to your fellow man."

So am I going to eternal damnation because I reject salvation by faith alone, or am I going to heaven because I believe salvation involves believing in Jesus plus doing good works for my fellow man?
Jesus' answer to the man specifically addressed what "I must do" which Jesus' answer had no mention of the only work God requires:
KJV John 6:29
"Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent."
Jesus revealed that in John 6:29 it's "faith alone". The required work of God does not include the " + ".
Jesus' answer to the man was based on the law which is why the man went away sad because:
Galatians 3:10 NIV
For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written:
Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”

Galatians 3:10 KJV
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written,
Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

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Old 02-12-2014, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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You have fallen out of grace like the Galatians did but you will still be saved for eonian life if you truly do believe the evangel of 1 Cor.15:1-4. Good luck doing all the law.
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Jesus revealed that in John 6:29 it's "faith alone". The required work of God does not include the " + ".
I think, thrillobyte, that you may still stand a chance at being saved, provided you stop doing good works IMMEDIATELY! God hates good works, and the fewer of them you do, the better off you are.

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Old 02-12-2014, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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As to the OP, I couldn't say which way you are headed, but it won't be for any intellectual belief in any case.
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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The OP most obviously does not have any grasp of the depths of his sin.
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Burn baby burn!
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