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could you explain this further? I'm not sure what you're saying.
Sure.
Jesus died for our sins right.. and we are all sinners. Thus the one common thread we have is our ability to sin. With that ability to sin comes the opportunity to have a relationship with God/Jesus. Its kind of a relational sin vs moral sin kinda of thing. Through that sin.. and the acceptance thereof a relationship can be formed with God/Jesus.
So shouldn't I be thankful for my sin? Do you think that without sin you would be closer to God?
Maybe sin must occur before a true relationship can actually begin..
if that is the case I should be thankful for my sinful ways.. it gives me a chance to form a true relationship with God/Jesus.
I find that I cannot be truly sorry for a lot of things that some of you would call sinful. The reason for that is, I learned a lot about myself and others. I feel that I understand other people, and their motivations, better because of things that I have done. I find it hard to regret learning something helpful.
Should I be thankful for my sinful ways? Not exactly, but I am thankful that I had a learning experience. I find it helpful.
Would I repeat these experiences if I had a chance. Probabally.
Assuming a person is "right" with God.. should that person be thankful for his/her sinful ways?
Prayerfully speaking, I can't imagine thanking God for my sinful waysI would more likely thank him for His Son, who paid the price for my sinful ways..
If sin is something to be grateful for, why not sin more?
And why regret sinning?
If you purposefully try to sin more then I'm not sure you are "right" with God. How can a relationship be formed on lies? There is a fine line between "missing the mark" and purposefully "missing the mark" over and over again.. just to "miss the mark".
See I think without sin we would have been closer to God. I mean Adam and Eve had a pretty cool relationship going with Him while they were in the Garden. And then they sinned. So the sinning world started. Christ took all the burden of our sins on his cross. Wow, of course I am grateful he did but I wish he didn't have to do it in the first place. So I think had we not sinned yes we would have had a closer relationship to God. But now through Christ we can have that relationship again. I see your question Big T oh and I love you.
and now if you please go answer my ? on who you would have over for dinner...I mean of course we would do take-out.....
If you purposefully try to sin more then I'm not sure you are "right" with God. How can a relationship be formed on lies? There is a fine line between "missing the mark" and purposefully "missing the mark" over and over again.. just to "miss the mark".
True, but I wasn't talking about repeating the same sin.'
And how do you know that you are right with God?
Someone who is right with God would have no need to sin. If you believe that it takes sin to reach God, sin looses its purpose.
Anywayz, if you follow your train of thought one could be lead to believe that only through sinning does one become closer to God. This philosophy could result in the following wrong (but logical) conclusion that the more you sin the closer you come to God. It is even conceivable that guilt becomes the indicator of the closeness to God. The more regret you feel, the closer you have come to God.
I mean why else would you feel guilty?
The problem with guilt is that it is like an addiction. Addicts have to use stronger stuff to feel the same high they did the first time. So the more you get used to sinning the more depraved the sin has to be to feel guilty. Somehow I don't think this is what God had in mind.
The person in solitary confinment in prison has little opportunity to sin except mentally. If he is released, would he be thankful that he has the chance to sin?
The person that is bound by the restrictions of a certain belief are also in a sense in a prison of their own making. Do they understand that to be free to CHOOSE to sin (or not) is something to be thankful for?
And how do you know that you are right with God?
Someone who is right with God would have no need to sin. If you believe that it takes sin to reach God, sin looses its purpose.
Well "right" with God is bit esoteric (for lack of a better word). In this context I would say "right" with God means having a meaningful 2 way relationship. Best way I know how to put it.. maybe someone a higher level with God could fill in the dots (not meaning that rude.. just some are more in tune with God than I).
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Anywayz, if you follow your train of thought one could be lead to believe that only through sinning does one become closer to God.
Well since the belief is we all sin.. that is indeed the path to a relationship with God.. No? It is a requirement that we sin. If we didn't sin then none of this matters..
Its not the act of the sin that draws one closer to God. Its the acknowledgement of that act.. and the forgiveness of that sin that draws one closer to God.. right?
So in essence.. I have the power of free will.. I have the power to not sin.. but on the other hand we are all filled with sin.. we are all sinners so we don't really have the power not to sin. Our only power is to ask for forgiveness in a heartfelt way and really only God knows if its heartfelt.
The person in solitary confinment in prison has little opportunity to sin except mentally. If he is released, would he be thankful that he has the chance to sin?
The person that is bound by the restrictions of a certain belief are also in a sense in a prison of their own making. Do they understand that to be free to CHOOSE to sin (or not) is something to be thankful for?
Think about it.
But many of our sins are mental.. Evil thoughts etc for lack of a better term. Cussing.. he can do that.. taking the lords name in vain etc etc..
Solitary confinment can only confine you physically. I confine myself everyday from committing physical sin. Thats fairly easy. Its the mental part that is more difficult.
So while in prison.. shouldn't he be thankful for an opportunity to be closer to Jesus.. for without sin.. there would be no need for Jesus right?
I dunno.. just asking.
I mean in the end.. the belief is to be thankful for having a savior who died for your sins (past, present and future). Its the forgiveness that we should be thankful for.. but how can you have forgiveness if there wasn't a wrong?
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If sin is something to be grateful for, why not sin more?
I would more likely thank him for His Son, who paid the price for my sinful ways..
oh and I love you.
Somehow I don't think this is what God had in mind.
