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Old 04-24-2014, 04:19 AM
 
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Ancient writings confirm an ancient Ark legend upon which Noah was based. Claiming it as proof of the Ark is either Christian preference or Journalistic method.

It is c 2,000 BC Babylonian. And the same tale as usual. The fuss is rather incomprehensible apart from the Ark in the tale being a round craft made of reeds. Otherwise it is just confirmation of the 'Tired old tale' (as the Institute for Creation Research article put it ) that the Mesopotamian legend was the original and the Bible borrowed it - which is supported by many examples of the Mesopotamian legend from antiquity but not one of a Biblical version predating them- as the equally tired Creationist story goes. But there is evidence for an ancient Mesopotamian tale and none for an even equally ancient Biblical one.

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Old 04-24-2014, 06:59 AM
 
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Ancient writings confirm an ancient Ark legend upon which Noah was based. Claiming it as proof of the Ark is either Christian preference or Journalistic method.

It is c 2,000 BC Babylonian. And the same tale as usual. The fuss is rather incomprehensible apart from the Ark in the tale being a round craft made of reeds. Otherwise it is just confirmation of the 'Tired old tale' (as the Institute for Creation Research article put it ) that the Mesopotamian legend was the original and the Bible borrowed it - which is supported by many examples of the Mesopotamian legend from antiquity but not one of a Biblical version predating them- as the equally tired Creationist story goes. But there is evidence for an ancient Mesopotamian tale and none for an even equally ancient Biblical one.
Thank you AREQUIPA for giving us historic evidence of Noah's Ark!
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Old 04-24-2014, 07:15 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Thank you AREQUIPA for giving us historic evidence of Noah's Ark!
That's not historic evidence of Noah's Ark. That's only historic evidence of a STORY about a great flood. Like Aesop's Fables, the story and it's worth are not based on its truth.
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Old 04-24-2014, 07:44 AM
 
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That's not historic evidence of Noah's Ark. That's only historic evidence of a STORY about a great flood. Like Aesop's Fables, the story and it's worth are not based on its truth.
Thank you for going according to my original request to give historic evidence of Noah's Ark. I knew eventually you'd do it! Thank you so very much!
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Old 04-24-2014, 08:16 AM
 
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Thank you for going according to my original request to give historic evidence of Noah's Ark. I knew eventually you'd do it! Thank you so very much!
If you think I was giving you historical evidence of Noah's Ark, you comprehension skills are severely lacking.
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Old 04-24-2014, 09:37 AM
 
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If you think I was giving you historical evidence of Noah's Ark, you comprehension skills are severely lacking.
They're looking in the wrong place...
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Old 04-24-2014, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Texas and Arkansas
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It really doesn't matter how far he looks back. If he doesn't have a newspaper from the town of Noah's residence reporting on the neighbors complaining about the huge edifice being built in Noah's driveway, then we don't have a contemporary account. Without such provenance, old writings, such as those of Josephus, have no more credibility that the kids' drawings mentioned above.
Let's see here, Jesus walked around and even preached about Noah, the audience KNEW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT.

Peter wrote about the ark, his audience KNEW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT.

Josephus claims it was still being shown, and pieces were taken from it, his audience KNEW THIS.

Where are the people who claim Jesus, Peter, or Josephus was in fantasy land? Oh, they are right here! 2000 year later! Yes, it is your opinion years later after the facts that has not one ounce of credibility!
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Old 04-24-2014, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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If you think I was giving you historical evidence of Noah's Ark, you comprehension skills are severely lacking.
Eusie grasps at straws to bolster the foundation of his wobbly faith.
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Old 04-24-2014, 11:18 AM
 
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If you think I was giving you historical evidence of Noah's Ark, you comprehension skills are severely lacking.
Oh, so you mean you can't read and don't know how to follow instructions per the OP? Okay, now I know.
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Old 04-24-2014, 11:20 AM
 
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Let's see here, Jesus walked around and even preached about Noah, the audience KNEW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT.

Peter wrote about the ark, his audience KNEW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT.

Josephus claims it was still being shown, and pieces were taken from it, his audience KNEW THIS.

Where are the people who claim Jesus, Peter, or Josephus was in fantasy land? Oh, they are right here! 2000 year later! Yes, it is your opinion years later after the facts that has not one ounce of credibility!
Good point! Let's quote Jesus and the writers of the gospels and Peter and the Old Testament! After all, those are historic documents of Noah's Ark!
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