Homosexuality: What does YOUR Pastor say about it? (divine, mention, reason)

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by revrandy

Um should you even be on here trying to teach others? Don't you read the Bible
1 Timothy 2:12 "I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet."

He, heh . . . I was going to point that out as counter-productive to gaining any credibility with fundies.

[plain and simple]

Homosexuality: What does YOUR Pastor say about it?

You can hear for yourself, actually. Here's his sermon about it.

Same-sex Attraction; Balancing Grace & Truth


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5/8/2014 "Same-sex Attraction–Balancing Grace & Truth [part 1] — Pastor Shane Idleman on Vimeo

Sorry about the link, apparently Vimeo doesn't link well here.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by Mightyqueen801

One who doesn't give a rat's ass about trivial things like consensual human sex acts, but reaches out to humanity with love and compassion and justice and calls us to do the same. That's the God I believe in.

OK, but that is not the God of the Bible.

It is a God many create to allow them to do and believe as they wish.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by pcamps

I disagree,from my observation, homosexuality is one of many things christian fundamentalists are obsessed with.

Christians fundamentalists and Modern Christian elitests and many others are obsessed with it. However "Christians" are not overly concerned.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by revrandy

Um should you even be on here trying to teach others? Don't you read the Bible

1 Timothy 2:12 "I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet."

That is in the Congregation/Church as Aquila AND Priscilla taught Apollos.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by Bideshi

Opposition to immorality is not an obsession. It is the right thing to do.

Some use the word "Fundamentalist" to avoid the actual issue.

They are obsessed with "fundamentalism" at least according to their definition, which basically is anyone who believes in the Bible.

[TroutDude]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Some use the word "Fundamentalist" to avoid the actual issue.

They are obsessed with "fundamentalism" at least according to their definition, which basically is anyone who believes in the Bible.

Wrong.

Many, probably most Christians, "believe" in the bible. But they are intelligent and educated enough to know which parts are allegorical and which parts no longer represent reality.

Fundamentalists cannot discern the difference.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by TroutDude

Wrong.

Many, probably most Christians, "believe" in the bible. But they are intelligent and educated enough to know which parts are allegorical and which parts no longer represent reality.

Fundamentalists cannot discern the difference.

So far the "intelligent and educated" come across as modern ignorant and uneducated individuals, who want what they want, not what is true.

I have never met anyone who does not recognize the Bible contains allegory, parables and similes, etc. The ignorant and uneducated are the ones from all history including today, who simply pick and chose and dismiss what they don't like.

[TroutDude]

Originally Posted by expatCA

So far the "intelligent and educated" come across as modern ignorant and uneducated individuals, who want what they want, not what is true.

I have never met anyone who does not recognize the Bible contains allegory, parables and similes, etc. The ignorant and uneducated are the ones from all history including today, who simply pick and chose and dismiss what they don't like.

Everyone does that, including you and other fundamentalists. The difference lies in which cherry-picked parts are declared true. And THAT depends on whether you're liberal or a fundie or something in-between.

[DennisW]

I don't recall my pastor ever talking about it. I can't think of why we would need to have a lesson on it in church. God has nothing to do with it so why teach about it? Let's stay focused on the things of God.