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Deuteronomy 12:31 You must not worship the Lord your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods,
they do all kinds of detestable things the Lord hates.
Psalm 5:5 The arrogant cannot stand in your presence. You hate all who do wrong;
Psalm 11:5 The Lord examines the righteous, but the wicked, those who love violence, he hates with a passion.
There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him:
haughty eyes
a lying tongue
hands that shed innocent blood
a heart that devises wicked plans
feet that make haste to run to evil
a false witness who breathes out lies
one who sows discord among brothers
Isaiah 61:8 “For I, the Lord, love justice; I hate robbery and wrongdoing."
Hosea 9:15 “Because of all their wickedness in Gilgal, I hated them there.
Because of their sinful deeds, I will drive them out of my house.
I will no longer love them; all their leaders are rebellious."
Jesus said for John to write down his words to the Church in Ephesus which stated:
Revelation 2:6 But you have this in your favor:
You hate the practices of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.
It seems after three threads about this topic no one has been able to explain how God who is love and who loves the world can also hate certain things. You can love winter, but hate the cold. You can love the tropics, but hate the humidity. You can love people, but hate their sinful actions.
Psalm 11:5, which was quoted in the OP, goes a bit further, saying God hates people who love violence: The LORD examines the righteous, but the wicked, those who love violence, he hates with a passion.
Mat 10:37 "He who is fond of father or mother above Me is not worthy of Me.
And he who is fond of son or daughter above Me is not worthy of Me.
Mat 10:38 And he who is not taking his cross and following after Me is not worthy of Me.
And just how do you differentiate these attributes in Proverbs 6:16 from a physical person?
Do you think Jesus had Proverbs 6:16 in mind when he said on more than one occasion:
Matthew 5:29 If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away.
It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
Matthew 5:30 And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away.
It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.
Matthew 18:8 If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away.
It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire.
if there is no truth in what God says?
First of all in the Old Testament, all there was was the law. If you broke part of the law, you broke all of the law. In the New Testament there was grace as Jesus Christ had come to be the perfect sacrifice to cover our sins. We no longer live under the law, but can be saved from that through Jesus Christ. Jesus was no more talking literally in your examples than he was when he said "Take the bread and eat, for it is my body.....Take this cup and drink for it is my blood.....Do this in remembrance of Me." They were not literally eating HIM, these items represented His body and blood. In the same way, if there is something that is causing sin in your life, throw it away, get rid of it. If it is internet Porn, either restrict your settings or give up internet, if it is drink, cut out bars and that crowd. These are hard, life altering choices and it may feel like you have cut off a piece of you, but He is right, it is better to enter this life less than whole than to be whole and wind up going to hell for all eternity.
It seems after three threads about this topic no one has been able to explain how God who is love and who loves the world can also hate certain things. You can love winter, but hate the cold. You can love the tropics, but hate the humidity. You can love people, but hate their sinful actions.
Psalm 11:5, which was quoted in the OP, goes a bit further, saying God hates people who love violence: The LORD examines the righteous, but the wicked, those who love violence, he hates with a passion.
Psa 11:5 Yahweh is testing the righteous one, Yet His soul hates the wicked one and the one loving wrong.
Does Yahweh literally have a soul? God is spirit. The Bible states that the soul is in the blood in Leviticus 17:11. Some translations say "the life is in the blood" but it truly is "the soul is in the blood."
So we know the writer of the Psalm is waxing figurative here and attributing human things to God.
God does not literally hate people. It is just that those people, the Jews who were covenanted with God as to doing all the law of Moses, if they broke the law, they agreed with God that He could bring on them all the curses of the law. But we know through definitive Scriptures that God loves everyone and in fact He is figuratively stated to be LOVE. So, using the figure of anthropomorphism, we can ascribe human emotions to God in certain senses.
but He is right, it is better to enter this life less than whole than to be whole and wind up going to hell for all eternity.
I agree with much of what you wrote, however, I think it would be better to stick with what Jesus actually said in that:
Mat_18:8 Now, if your hand or your foot is snaring you, strike it off and cast it from you. Is it ideal for you to be entering into life maimed or lame, or, having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the fire eonian?
What is the "fire eonian" or the fire pertaining to the eon? It is the same fire the Israelites went into when they were held hostage in Egypt.
Psa 11:5 Yahweh is testing the righteous one, Yet His soul hates the wicked one and the one loving wrong.
Does Yahweh literally have a soul? God is spirit. The Bible states that the soul is in the blood in Leviticus 17:11. Some translations say "the life is in the blood" but it truly is "the soul is in the blood."
So we know the writer of the Psalm is waxing figurative here and attributing human things to God.
God does not literally hate people. It is just that those people, the Jews who were covenanted with God as to doing all the law of Moses, if they broke the law, they agreed with God that He could bring on them all the curses of the law. But we know through definitive Scriptures that God loves everyone and in fact He is figuratively stated to be LOVE. So, using the figure of anthropomorphism, we can ascribe human emotions to God in certain senses.
Thanks for sharing your personal view, but like I said after three threads no one has been able to answer the question.
Thanks for sharing your personal view, but like I said after three threads no one has been able to answer the question.
What specifically is the question?
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