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Nowhere in scripture does it refer to the gospel being a warning, this is the kind of heresy the OP speaks of.
Those are your words, and your words alone. No one referred to the gospel as just a warning. I said warning people of danger is a loving act, so let us not twist that into something else again. Your personal opinion is irrelevant because no matter how hard you try, it cannot remove the love out of their hearts. They believe there is danger, and the loving thing is to help people avoid it.
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Those are your words, and your words alone. No one referred to the gospel as just a warning. I said warning people of danger is a loving act, so let us not twist that into something else again. Your personal opinion is irrelevant because no matter how hard you try, it cannot remove the love out of their hearts.
Did you not read what i posted how the gospel was shared by that none of them spoke of the good news to the hearer with the warning of hell. These are not my words but the words of Jesus,Paul,Peter and Stephen.
Instead of being in denial of what i am saying and proving by scripture, back up your warning of eternal hell for not believing gospel with the scripture.
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Nowhere in scripture does it refer to the gospel being a warning, this is the kind of heresy the OP speaks of. Jesus came preaching peace, the angels announced news of glad tidings, Paul never said anything about the eternal hell you believe in when he said Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
and that He was buried, and that He arose again the third day according to the Scriptures, nor when he said believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, nor when he said if you If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Nor did Peter at Pentecost, nor did Stephen before they stoned. So i reject your opinion knowing you are speaking out of fear not love and believe what the scriptures say over you.
But the angel said to them, DO NOT BE AFRAID bring you good news that will cause great joy for all the people.
There is no fear in the message of glad tidings
There is no believe or else be warned you are eternal hell bound in the gospel message, because this is what you are implying. It simply is not in the scriptures.
Anyway i am done with you, you are proving once again that you want to bring love down to a level of your own acceptance and belief of it
Did you not read what i posted how the gospel was shared by that none of them spoke of the good news to the hearer with the warning of hell.
You are missing the point, so it is not worth the discussion. I have said what I had to say, and you can choose to ignore it if you want. I am not interested in your view about hell, because I already told you it is irrelevant. The motivation of those who try to help is relevant, because they are motivated by love. Feel free to disagree. If they are not loving enough by your standards, then so be it.
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If you do like good and have no love, it is nothing, but if you have right kind of love you will also do right kind of good, which is good in the eyes of God.
Faith is important to us all, so we can be perfect to that love.
Hope is important for us. And real hope is that when you search to God will with all your heart, and you know it.
So do good in selfless way, and beware to the all temptations of this world, which trying to as, in these days.
And to you all I must say, that avoid to pointless debates, which do not lead anywhere, but dispute.
Remember that, that fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Always serve the lord with fear, and rejoice in him with trembling.
And the end.
May God Almighty bless you in our Lord Jesus Christ. Hohor to him and honor to God, forever and ever. Amen.
If you do like good and have no love, it is nothing, but if you have right kind of love you will also do right kind of good, which is good in the eyes of God.
Faith is important to us all, so we can be perfect to that love.
Hope is important for us. And real hope is that when you search to God will with all your heart, and you know it.
So do good in selfless way, and beware to the all temptations of this world, which trying to as, in these days.
And to you all I must say, that avoid to pointless debates, which do not lead anywhere, but dispute.
Remember that, that fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Always serve the lord with fear, and rejoice in him with trembling.
And the end.
May God Almighty bless you in our Lord Jesus Christ. Hohor to him and honor to God, forever and ever. Amen.
If you do like good and have no love, it is nothing, but if you have right kind of love you will also do right kind of good, which is good in the eyes of God.
Faith is important to us all, so we can be perfect to that love.
It is the Spirit of God which gave us the right kind of love, and helps us do the right kind of good. We have that Spirit because of our faith. Faith, Spirit, fruits of the Spirit. Without faith, there is no Spirit, and without the Spirit there can't be fruits of the Spirit. They are part of the same equation, which is why it makes sense when the Bible says "without faith it is impossible to please God". It is not meant to be offensive, it is simply a declaration of the obvious, but I can see why it might offend people who do not believe in the requirement of Faith.
It is the Spirit of God which gave us the right kind of love, and helps us do the right kind of good. We have that Spirit because of our faith. Faith, Spirit, fruits of the Spirit. Without faith, there is no Spirit, and without the Spirit there can't be fruits of the Spirit. They are part of the same equation, which is why it makes sense when the Bible says "without faith it is impossible to please God". It is not meant to be offensive, it is simply a declaration of the obvious, but I can see why it might offend people who do not believe in the requirement of Faith.
The Spirit of God IS agape love because God IS agape love. What you call faith is an artificial human construction involving the "precepts and doctrines of men" that you think we are supposed to believe . . . or else. It is not about what we are supposed to believe ABOUT God and Jesus. It is the faith we are supposed to have that Jesus revealed the true nature of God as love and demonstrated what we are supposed to try to emulate. It is the faith we are to have that Jesus did for us what we could not do and now we are saved from permanent separation from God. It is the faith that if we follow Christ's instructions to "love God and each other" daily and repent when we don't that we will be sanctified under Christ's love for us all. It is the faith that our imperfections will be covered by Christ's perfect grace. The faith that YOU think is important is NOT. God is neither egotistical nor vain and we cannot "brown nose" our way into His graces by proclaiming what we believe ABOUT Him and Jesus.
The Spirit of God IS agape love because God IS agape love. What you call faith is an artificial human construction involving the "precepts and doctrines of men" that you think we are supposed to believe . . . or else. It is not about what we are supposed to believe ABOUT God and Jesus. It is the faith we are supposed to have that Jesus revealed the true nature of God as love and demonstrated what we are supposed to try to emulate. It is the faith we are to have that Jesus did for us what we could not do and now we are saved from permanent separation from God. It is the faith that if we follow Christ's instructions to "love God and each other" daily and repent when we don't that we will be sanctified under Christ's love for us all. It is the faith that our imperfections will be covered by Christ's perfect grace. The faith that YOU think is important is NOT. God is neither egotistical nor vain and we cannot "brown nose" our way into His graces by proclaiming what we believe ABOUT Him and Jesus.
I already know what I think and believe. You do not have to re-define my beliefs.
It is the Spirit of God which gave us the right kind of love, and helps us do the right kind of good. We have that Spirit because of our faith. Faith, Spirit, fruits of the Spirit. Without faith, there is no Spirit, and without the Spirit there can't be fruits of the Spirit. They are part of the same equation, which is why it makes sense when the Bible says "without faith it is impossible to please God". It is not meant to be offensive, it is simply a declaration of the obvious, but I can see why it might offend people who do not believe in the requirement of Faith.
Not surprising how your words tend toward you thinking you are RIGHT. The RIGHT kind of love, the RIGHT kind of good... etc. You trust in yourself that you are RIGHTeous? Sounds like it.
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