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Old 09-11-2014, 09:24 AM
 
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Show your evidence!

Take a look at the gentiles not being allowed in the synogogue in Acts

Acts 13:42-44 KJV And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. (43) Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God. (44) And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.

Notice the Gentiles had to wait until the Jews were gone from the synagogue to address Paul. The reason is simple. They were not allowed in the synagogue. The Jews would not be in the same building with a Gentile.
Gee, how did they know what was being preached in the Synagogue, unless they were there?....
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Old 09-11-2014, 12:01 PM
 
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Gee, how did they know what was being preached in the Synagogue, unless they were there?....
"when the Jews were gone"

The Jews that were in the synagogue told them later.

Wouldn't fit in a synagogue

And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
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Old 09-11-2014, 02:16 PM
 
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"when the Jews were gone"

The Jews that were in the synagogue told them later.

Wouldn't fit in a synagogue

And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
Including the gentiles
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Old 09-11-2014, 03:59 PM
 
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I thought the command to Israel under the law was the seventh day.
Actually you are correct. Talmudic scholars came together and made a proclamation that the Jewish calendar be adjusted yearly so that the Sabbath would start on Friday evening and end an hour past sundown on Saturday everywhere around the world. So thus wherever a Jew traveled too, it would be on the same day.
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Old 09-11-2014, 04:07 PM
 
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I work retail and sometimes my schedule only allows me to attend church on Saturday nights. However, I feel guilty for not going on Sunday. In your opinion, does it really matter the date you attend service?
It depends on how traditional you want to be.

Early Christians always met on the First day (Sunday) and never kept the sabbath!
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Old 09-11-2014, 06:49 PM
 
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Yes it is a well established and unquestionable fact that the "Lords Day" was what the early church observed.

HISTORY OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH: The celebration of the Lord's Day in memory of the resurrection of Christ dates undoubtedly from the apostolic age. Nothing short of apostolic precedent can account for the universal religious observance in the churches of the second century. There is no dissenting voice. This custom is confirmed by the testimonies of the earliest post-apostolic writers, as Barnabas, Ignatius, and Justin Martyr. (Philip Schaff, , vol. 1, pg. 201-202)

HISTORY OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH: Hence, the first day was already in the apostolic age honorably designated as "the Lord's Day." ...it appears, therefore, from the New Testament itself, that Sunday was observed as a day of worship, and in special commemoration of the Resurrection, whereby the work of redemption was finished. The universal and uncontradicted Sunday observance in the second century can only be explained by the fact that it has its roots in apostolic practice. (Philip Schaff, , vol. 1, pg. 478-479)
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Old 09-12-2014, 01:38 AM
 
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I work retail and sometimes my schedule only allows me to attend church on Saturday nights. However, I feel guilty for not going on Sunday. In your opinion, does it really matter the date you attend service?
According to my understanding of the Bible, no. If you get a concordance and look up every reference in the Bible to the Sabbath, it will show you that the Sabbath is not set aside by God as a day of congregation and worship, but as a day of rest. Jesus said " Man was not made for the Sabbath, but rather the Sabbath for man."
We are told to refrain from work from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday. We are told to enjoy the beauties of God's creation, visit those that are sick or in prison. Walk through a forest or on the beach and appreciate the beauty of nature in other words.
The Jews came by custom to have their day of congregation and worship on the Sabbath, but that's not what God instructed. The New Testament of Jesus Christ tells us not to leave off fellowshipping with other believers, but there is no rule about when, where, how, or how often. Jesus and Paul went to the Jewish Synagogues to teach on the Sabbath because that's the day they would be there to listen. Most Christian denominations meet on Sunday because Jesus was resurrected on that day, and that's fine, but it has nothing to do with the law of the Sabbath. Sabatarians don't have it right either because they regard it as a day of meeting and worship rather than a day of rest as God instructed. If you fellowship with other believers on a Saturday night God will be just fine with it. Some misguided humans may not...

Now, before you ask if it's OK to work on Saturday (or Sunday), Jesus was condemned by the Pharisees when He and His disciples were gathering grain on the Sabbath. He said "I am the Lord of the Sabbath". If your Ox has fallen into a ditch (you have to work) you are allowed to work by Jesus's teachings. His promises are trustworthy and true. God will not be upset with you. He will be pleased that you are obeying His teaching not to leave off fellowship. This, according to the Bible.

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Old 09-12-2014, 04:06 AM
 
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That webpage is garbage...
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Old 09-12-2014, 09:44 AM
 
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That webpage is garbage...
And that's your point of view of looking at a website as a whole. My point of view sees it differently. You'd have to go back 2014 years to understand my pov. Under Jewish tradition a Jew who died during the Sabbath cannot be prepared for burial until the end of the Sabbath. Since Jewish Sabbath ends an hour after sundown, there would not have been sufficient light to prepare the body. Thus the earliest the preparation would have occurred would be when the Sun was high enough to give sufficient light. Thus the start of Christian tradition. Following that logic gives us a reason for a midnight mass since the new day starts as 12:01 and hence there is no night before evening mass. Thus bringing us back to the OP wanting to be Traditional or not.
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Old 09-12-2014, 10:46 AM
 
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If we are using biblical time: Wouldn't Saturday night when its dark be considered early in the morning on the 1st day of the week, juts like the description when Jesus rose, early in the morning on the 1st day of the week after it got dark? So you are still doing to church on Sunday in biblical times vs our current time.

In the end I dont think God really cares over the Saturday vs Sunday debates believers have been going back and forth over vs how we really treat one another as in Loving one another.
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