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The scriptures are God's gift to mankind. It doesn't matter if the different writers knew their work would be part of the canon. God knew and he is the author.
Biblical faith is trusting what God says. It is different than hope which is based on trusting in God's goodness rather than what He said.
Yes you can have faith in your Pope or the televangelist on TV but, that is just faith in men. Faith in God requires Him to speak. He has spoken and does speak through His scriptures.
Lastly, not knowing what was there before the Big Bang is a much more powerful event to generate faith than a few written words in a book. God is much more than the NT!
Correct. The unknown is obviously evidence for God. And not just any God, but specifically the Christian God. The unknown is certainly not evidence for Allah, Ahura Mazda, or Ra. That would be impossible! Obviously.
No, the Catholic church is not. The Catholic church follows their own rules and not the Bible completely!
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Originally Posted by Martin R
The sqabbling between those of different faiths seems a fuitless exercise; like little boys squabbling over the size of their big brothers.
Exactly. What is the POINT of saying something like "The Catholic church follows their own rules and not the Bible completely"? Yeah, and? That's a fact. We all know it.
I suspect what the poster is implying is the unsaid part, "...and THEY'RE WRONG and MY church is RIGHT!"
Correct. The unknown is obviously evidence for God. And not just any God, but specifically the Christian God. The unknown is certainly not evidence for Allah, Ahura Mazda, or Ra. That would be impossible! Obviously.
Ha, ha!
A newbie atheist! You are funny dude. I just said the name of God is the Big Bang.
How did I misrepresent you? You clearly stated that not knowing what was before the Big Bang was a "powerful event" to generate "faith." In the context of the ongoing discussion, it was a clear reference to faith in the Christian God.
How did I misrepresent you? You clearly stated that not knowing what was before the Big Bang was a "powerful event" to generate "faith." In the context of the ongoing discussion, it was a clear reference to faith in the Christian God.
Please clarify if you meant otherwise.
Catholicism is my cultural heritage. Whether God (or whatever name you want to use) exists or not is a moot point. In the end I am less religious than you (the newbie atheist).
Sure but my belief would be a matter of hope rather than faith.
I would also be at great risk of placing my faith in a false god or gods. Even in "Christian" countries we see folks embracing false Christs and false gospels. Their faith is in some man or men who plays lip service to scriptures but, follows their own imagination. God has spoken and we have an obligation to hear and heed His words.
Sure but my belief would be a matter of hope rather than faith.
I would also be at great risk of placing my faith in a false god or gods. Even in "Christian" countries we see folks embracing false Christs and false gospels. Their faith is in some man or men who plays lip service to scriptures but, follows their own imagination. God has spoken and we have an obligation to hear and heed His words.
For you the bible is everything. A true Sola Scriptura person.
OK, I get that.
But, why do you assume that only YOU have the truth?
If the existence of God is moot than why bother discussing God and religion in these forums? It's nothing personal obviously, I just don't understand.
Sure, this is new territory for a novice atheist. I discuss these issues because I am a Catholic, it is that simple. Otherwise, I have no clue about what is God. Everything is a guess! But, I don't think it is important to know that.
But, don't worry, I was once like you. Been there done that!
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But, I don't think it is important to know that.
